Has anybody tried out the new LibreOffice with RTF files? I have a definite need to save things as RTF files (submitting manuscripts to publications, many will ONLY accept RTF). I am still using OO 2.3, which has only minor problems with RTF, I tried OO3.x and the RTF problems got worse. I would like to move to the latest and greatest, but poor/lack of RTF support is a showstopper for me.

Jim Hartley

Joseph Apuzzo wrote:
Funny almost everything you mentioned were reasons for the fork of LibraOffice, since both Sun and Oracle lacked a definite strategy.
1) LibraOffice is better documented and focused then OpenOffice
2) It is consistent with normal GUI conventions, unlike MS Office's new "Ribbon" feature that was un-needed and not asked for both OpenOffice and LibraOffice function like MS Office 2000 3) Where as I think this is now more true for Propitiatory Software, It has taken the Open Document Group almost a year to polish up LibraOffice to the point where it's an acceptable release.

If there is a missing function or feature, then join me supporting LibraOffice and help make the feature that is needed ( aka scratching your own itch ). But don't expect or bad mouth LibraOffice for lack of some feature that you desire, it's now more of a truly open project with methods to advocate new features.

Why I have gone out of my way to recommend LibraOffice is that it delivers something for everyone: 1) For GNU/Freedom nuts like Chris and myself it's more "free" and "open" then before or any Office suite out there 2) It's has more fixes and polish then OpenOffice, it's installer and Help files have gotten there needed overhaul and polish 3) For any platform, I have found it the best "Office" suite out there, again MS's new ribbon is unnecessary, when I use a tool to accomplish work, I don't need fancy, just easy, good, and dependable,

With that said, this "horse" is dead! Let's move on....

GNu Joe
Joseph Apuzzo
Malian, Italy

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Phil M Perry <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    On 1/25/2011 11:34 AM, Joseph Apuzzo wrote:

        LibraOffice is free as in beer (aka Libra) and Open as it
        allows the contributions of the community to be accepted
        without corporate oversight of Oracle.
        The reason why OpenOffice is not progressing is mainly do to
        the fact that Oracle is gate-keeping every new feature.
        Also Oracle is looking to monitise parts of OpenOffice when
        used in a business and or school situation.

    Well... a "heavy corporate hand" is not always a bad thing. One of
    my gripes about OO, at least in older versions, was the lack of
    finish and polish on the product. This seems to be common in
    informal/semiformal open source projects. There is no one at the
    corporate helm to make sure several things happen:

    1. well written, properly edited, and consistent documentation
    (including Help and other online documentation). Most developers
    are not good at writing and editing, and lack funds to hire real
    Technical Writers.
    2. prevent inconsistent interfaces across different functions, and
    interfaces that don't obey well established GUI rules (such as,
    "never rearrange a given pulldown menu when in different modes --
    either just disable (gray out) actions that shouldn't be used, or
    restructure your menu architecture"). Too many developers just do
    what they feel like doing, and no one is devoted to making things
    consistent.
    3. ride herd on developers who just work on the "fun" stuff, and
    neglect important but un-sexy functionality. Someone has to do
    backup functions, and someone has to do proper install/uninstall,
    and someone has to come up with full test coverage, and someone...
    Sometimes you need a corporate directive to make sure that someone
    actually gets assigned to do these things.

    If Oracle is willing to address such issues while keeping OO free
    for most users (say, free for all with no support, or charge in
    order to get support), I won't be quick to condemn them.


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