Jack,
Do you need to save that windows system?
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On Nov 10, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think this page holds the secrets I need to discover. Hey Chris - you free 
> on Sunday if this doesn't go well? ;-)
> 
> JC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> OK - I was able to get the normal Windoze MBR back and can once again boot to 
> normal Windoze system. Breathing a small sigh of minor relief there, though I 
> really want to be done with this system if I can.... (My M$ system has gotten 
> so slow, I think the LiveCD startup is faster.)
> 
> I pulled my USB-based disk off the system and tried the Ubuntu disk again - 
> This time, the install sees only my SECOND disk (E: in Windows - never worked 
> out why it isn't D, but it isn't C: - which I think is where I want things, 
> yes? - that would be sda. I am seeing sdb) I did NOT continue.
> 
> I am booting the DVD, selecting "Install Ubuntu" from there - should I maybe 
> boot all the way up into LiveCD and run the "Install Ubuntu" from the Unity 
> link?
> 
> There is also an option for "Something Else" on the Installation Type page - 
> in this page, I DO see both (since the external is disconnected) disks. Not 
> completely sure what to do here though.
> 
> I may have to disconnect my additional internal drive as well to get this the 
> way I want. That seems silly.
> 
> JC
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> It isn't THAT old (386!!) - IIRC, it's an P5, and it runs the LiveCD just 
> fine - so I believe Ubuntu should run on it once I get the disks worked out 
> properly.
> 
> Unfortunately though, it appears either work is blocking the appropriate Dell 
> site, or it is down - so I can't confirm the hardware yet. Sigh. Once this 
> long Solaris SAN migration completes, I can head home and do some REAL work - 
> instead of this stuff I get paid for. (Which, I might add, is supposed to 
> include RHEL, at which I pretty much suck, so it is kind of embarrassing that 
> I need to ask all this in the first place. Sigh.)
> 
> JC
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Mark Wallace <[email protected]> wrote:
> If your system is that old, you might find your best desktop to be LXDE.  
> Lubuntu is a good distro of it.  It's a little rough cut but it runs like the 
> wind.  The system that I am using originally had XP service pack one in it.  
> If you get kernel panic when you try to boot up, it's because your old system 
> is a 386 processor.  If you want another desktop, put Lubuntu in it if  you 
> have trouble and then use the synaptic package manager to get KDE or Xubuntu 
> into it.  If you pick KDE, disable the desktop effects because chances are 
> your system can't handle them.  If it keeps coming off like you have a bad 
> install, with your task bar disappearing, etc, or it hangs, then your       
> system can't handle distros designed for a 686.  The only Ubuntu distro that 
> will  work with an old system is Lubuntu.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12-11-09 10:10 PM, Jack Chastain wrote:
>> Thanks all - I think Chris may have the correct analysis. This third-shift 
>> work makes it miserable for me to try anything in a reasonable frame, but I 
>> will give this a shot soon.
>> 
>> I believe based on the way things were installed that Chris is reading it 
>> right - I don't understand why the external USB-based disk was the only one 
>> I was offered (I tried a few times to insure I didn't have a list of three 
>> drives - I did not, however, with the system up, fdisk clearly sees the 
>> other drives) but there you go.
>> 
>> My impression is that - for some reason - Ubuntu installed itself to the 
>> drive that is not available until the drives for that drive  are made 
>> available - after boot. Live and learn. Or not.
>> 
>> The system si a quite old Dell - I think it is maybe going on 10 years now - 
>> and last night, I just got tired of the gradual and continual slowdown of 
>> the system. I figured the only thing it really has is Visio, so I would 
>> replace the (even older?) laptop and see if I couldn't squeak out a little 
>> more performance. Silly me.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, now I am at work in White Plains and won't be home until 
>> about 0600 - I guess I will get to play then. For now, off to do some 
>> reading.
>> 
>> JC
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Chris Knadle <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> On Friday, November 09, 2012 05:30:24 PM Matthias Johnson wrote:
>> > Chris,
>> >
>> > You may be correct but if the internal drive wasnt mountable how would it
>> > install anything to it?
>> >
>> > Matthias
>> 
>> When Grub2 installs the boot sector portion of the boot loader into the MBR,
>> it does that on the raw device (such as /dev/sda), not a filesystem.  When it
>> installs the /rest/ of Grub2 -- the configuration, modules, etc -- that's 
>> done
>> on a mounted filesystem.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>>   -- Chris
>> 
>> Chris Knadle
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> Eschew obfuscation and pompous prolixity.
> 
> Light a man a fire, he is warm for the night.
> Light a man afire, he is warm for the rest of his life.
> 
> 
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> Eschew obfuscation and pompous prolixity.
> 
> Light a man a fire, he is warm for the night.
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