I finally solved the problem with the nuclear approach. I backed up my data, kill disked the hard drive. Installed Lubuntu from a CD, added Mate and took out Lubuntu. Everything worked perfectly. I am guessing that that the keyring that Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc used wasn't properly installed. Because the system had KDE only in it, then I am guessing that if the system was using the KDE wallet all was well, but the keyring wasn't properly installed. I wouldn't have been able find the missing package in a million years. The way you get Mate from an added repository rather than from a CD or setting out to get it doesn't help.

But it's like a homecoming to see the old gnome 2 desktop back. Simple, very few bugs, doesn't take up a lot of room on the memory sticks, so the computer doesn't slow down. KDE used too much memory and I think that wen it started to store files on swap is when it slowed to a crawl or just hung altogether.

Mark


On 12-11-12 02:38 PM, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Monday, November 12, 2012 12:43:01, Mark Wallace wrote:
Synaptic Package Manager does not boot up in Mate.  Nothing happens
after I key in password.
That's strange.  A friend that uses MATE has several issues with it, but this
is the first I've heard of this particular weirdness.  My understanding is
that MATE uses old Gnome2 libraries, renamed in order to not conflict with
Gnome3 libs.  I'm guessing that there's some kind of Gnome2 <-> Gnome3 library
weirdness going on as to why this is happening.  I've also found that MATE
doesn't seem to include the normal menu items that other Window Mangers and
Desktop Environments do.

KDE was in my system first.

Synaptic works  perfectly in KDE

Muon works perfectly in both KDE and Mate.

I want to take KDE completely out of my system as it is too resource
hungry for an old netbook.  I think Mate  will work better. I also miss
Gnome 2.33
I'm including this in case you re-try KDE at some point.

To lighten KDE4's resource hungryness: go into System Settings under
"Workspace Appearance and Behavior" -> "Desktop Search" and uncheck every item
in the "Basic Settings" tab and hit Apply -- specifically turn off both
"Strigi file indexing" and "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop".  Both of those features
are a performance nightmare, they're active by default, and the documentation
on them in the help doesn't mention the performance problems associated with
them.

With these turned off, KDE4 runs just fine on an old Pentium 4 system.  With
them turned on the system increasingly becomes intolerably slow.

I am guessing that I have a keyring issue in Mate.  I want Mate to be my
only desktop.
If you mean a "keyring package", the keyring packages are GPG keyrings for
checking package integrity (i.e. signatures) before installing the package.
Once the package is installed the keyring isn't used AFAIK.

What do I need to install?
I don't think it's a missing dependency.  The next suggestion I have is to
start synaptic at the command line and see if you get any unexpected error
output.

   -- Chris

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