If you didn't have a GTK distro installed at all and you installed
Synaptic through Muon and KDE, wouldn't it install using the KDE
wallet, rather than create a Gnome keyring?
I think that I have the problem of the title disappearing when the
screen is maximized. I think because it is the only change that I made
to my system and the problem is gone.
I saw a program to set preferences for AMD processors in my start menu
and, because it's a Celeron M processor, I uninstalled it. The problem
then disappeared.
On 12-11-13 09:44 AM, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Monday, November 12, 2012 22:35:13, Mark Wallace wrote:
I finally solved the problem with the nuclear approach. I backed up my
data, kill disked the hard drive. Installed Lubuntu from a CD, added
Mate and took out Lubuntu. Everything worked perfectly.
That's interesting.
I am guessing that that the keyring that Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc used wasn't
properly installed.
I don't think so.
Because the system had KDE only in it, then I am guessing
that if the system was using the KDE wallet all was well, but the
keyring wasn't properly installed.
Nothing to do with KDE's wallet; that's for unlocking passwords within KDE
apps -- it's not used by GTK apps like Symantic.
I wouldn't have been able find the missing package in a million years.
There's no way to know now what the cause of the issue was, but as I said I
dont't think it was related to a /missing/ package; dependencies take care of
that. Regardless it's fixed now, and that's what matters most.
The way you get Mate from an added repository rather than from a CD or
setting out to get it doesn't help.
But it's like a homecoming to see the old gnome 2 desktop back. Simple,
very few bugs, doesn't take up a lot of room on the memory sticks, so
the computer doesn't slow down. KDE used too much memory and I think
that wen it started to store files on swap is when it slowed to a crawl
or just hung altogether.
It's only the Nepomuk/Strigi parts of KDE that do this, but it doesn't store
files in memory -- it caches them in a Virtuoso database. Nepomuk is the
feature that searches this database and manages this, Strigi is the file
indexer that searches your system periodically with many simultaneous
background I/O processes (which is what brings your computer down to
"slideshow" speed) and then adds both files and metadata to the Virtuoso
database. Where this becomes a memory problem is when Nepomuk has to search a
Virtuoso database that is huge -- which it quickly will be if you let Strigi
fill it and you have lots of files in your home directory.
Mark
On 12-11-12 02:38 PM, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Monday, November 12, 2012 12:43:01, Mark Wallace wrote:
Synaptic Package Manager does not boot up in Mate. Nothing happens
after I key in password.
That's strange. A friend that uses MATE has several issues with it, but
this is the first I've heard of this particular weirdness. My
understanding is that MATE uses old Gnome2 libraries, renamed in order
to not conflict with Gnome3 libs. I'm guessing that there's some kind
of Gnome2 <-> Gnome3 library weirdness going on as to why this is
happening. I've also found that MATE doesn't seem to include the normal
menu items that other Window Mangers and Desktop Environments do.
KDE was in my system first.
Synaptic works perfectly in KDE
Muon works perfectly in both KDE and Mate.
I want to take KDE completely out of my system as it is too resource
hungry for an old netbook. I think Mate will work better. I also miss
Gnome 2.33
I'm including this in case you re-try KDE at some point.
To lighten KDE4's resource hungryness: go into System Settings under
"Workspace Appearance and Behavior" -> "Desktop Search" and uncheck every
item in the "Basic Settings" tab and hit Apply -- specifically turn off
both "Strigi file indexing" and "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop". Both of
those features are a performance nightmare, they're active by default,
and the documentation on them in the help doesn't mention the
performance problems associated with them.
With these turned off, KDE4 runs just fine on an old Pentium 4 system.
With them turned on the system increasingly becomes intolerably slow.
I am guessing that I have a keyring issue in Mate. I want Mate to be my
only desktop.
If you mean a "keyring package", the keyring packages are GPG keyrings
for checking package integrity (i.e. signatures) before installing the
package. Once the package is installed the keyring isn't used AFAIK.
What do I need to install?
I don't think it's a missing dependency. The next suggestion I have is
to start synaptic at the command line and see if you get any unexpected
error output.
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