As Chuck said, the two readings (obdii tester and timing marks) will only agree 
if you set the marks to 10. The reader doesn't know what the base setting is, 
it assumes it is ten. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Alster
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 3:26 PM
To: 'Michael Knudson'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Adjusted timing to 14 on a 97

Try again and see what happens when you compare the readings.



Larry
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Knudson
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:26 PM
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Adjusted timing to 14 on a 97

/>The ECU has no way of knowing where you have physically set the timing.  It 
assumes you are physically setting it to 10* and will report that even if you 
physically set it to 20*.  If you set it to 14*, it's like adding an additional 
4* over the entire timing map.  The ECU doesn't know this, though.
 >
 >As far as ignition timing having any effect on oil consumption.... it 
 >doesn't.  It's either coincidence or imagination.
 >I'd say stick it back at 14* and run it that way.
 >
 >Have you done a leakdown and compression check to know that the rings are bad?
 >
-Chuck /

@ Chuck,  

no leak down yet, compression comes to 160, 155, 162 , 160 (at 4100 feet).  
need to check them again now there there is a more mileage on the head.
 as for burning oil, I know timing its self would have nothing to do with it. 
but the increased pressure from the fuel igniting sooner would right?  the 
engine has just about 154k miles on it.


@ Larry,  come to think of it, no I did not.  guess thats what I get for being 
in a hurry that night...

Larry Alster wrote:
> Did you put the jumper in the diag block to adjust the timing?
>
>
>
> Larry
>  
> White Knight      1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet        1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo
> Honey B             1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L  JR Supercharger
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>  
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Knudson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Adjusted timing to 14 on a 97
>
> Hello, Just have a quick question for you.   I adjusted the timing on my 
> 97 NA  to 14 degrees.  We set it using a timing light and while 
> keeping an eye on a scangauge in side the car to see what the ecu was 
> saying it is.  timing light says we are at ~14 but the ecu is still 
> reporting 10 at idle.  does it always report it as 10 or is there some 
> other issue that I should be worried about.
>
> I will say this though, since I bumped the timing it runs much 
> smoother and feels much quicker while accelerating.  no more 
> hesitation from 1k-4k rpm.
>
>
> I am going to drop it back off to 12 degrees on thursday. My rings 
> seems to be letting more oil past now...  just can't keep up with the extra
> pressure I guess.   Hoping to have money for rebuild over the 
> winter/spring. on that note, any tips on where I should look for parts 
> and pricing on all that?  head was recently replaced with a rebuilt 
> unit. so I think just a head gasket and a lower end rebuild should be 
> enough.
>
>
> Thank!
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