After the head replacement I have been burning about half a quart every 
100-200 miles with 1 - 2 auto cross events in there.  I did an evo 
school locally a few weeks ago about burned about 1 quart in 25   40-50 
second runs.    As for smoke I noticed a trail behind me this morning on 
the drive to work gray in color and only under heavy acceleration. at 
idle there is none, no smoke that I have seen at start up. unless the 
car has sat for a few weeks or more.   


before head replacement I burned 2.5 quarts in 150 miles and 1 autox 
event.  it was pretty bad.

-Mike

Chuck Wills wrote:
> timing and oil burning are unrelated.  the additional pressure might 
> make an additional 3 or 4 foot pounds of torque... which is, what, 
> maybe a 4% increase?  That's not enough to change oil burning or ring 
> sealing.
>
> How much oil are you consuming?  Do you have a grey/blue cloud 
> following your car? Is it worse when you let off the gas at high rpm?
>
> -Chuck
>
> ----------------------
>
> Michael Knudson wrote:
>> />The ECU has no way of knowing where you have physically set the 
>> timing.  It assumes you are physically setting it to 10* and will report 
>> that even if you physically set it to 20*.  If you set it to 14*, it's 
>> like adding an additional 4* over the entire timing map.  The ECU 
>> doesn't know this, though.
>>  >
>>  >As far as ignition timing having any effect on oil consumption.... it 
>> doesn't.  It's either coincidence or imagination.
>>  >I'd say stick it back at 14* and run it that way.
>>  >
>>  >Have you done a leakdown and compression check to know that the rings 
>> are bad?
>>  >
>> -Chuck /
>>
>> @ Chuck,  
>>
>> no leak down yet, compression comes to 160, 155, 162 , 160 (at 4100 
>> feet).  need to check them again now there there is a more mileage on 
>> the head.
>>  as for burning oil, I know timing its self would have nothing to do 
>> with it. but the increased pressure from the fuel igniting sooner would 
>> right?  the engine has just about 154k miles on it.
>>
>>
>> @ Larry,  come to think of it, no I did not.  guess thats what I get for 
>> being in a hurry that night...
>>
>> Larry Alster wrote:
>>   
>>> Did you put the jumper in the diag block to adjust the timing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>  
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Knudson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:37 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Adjusted timing to 14 on a 97
>>>
>>> Hello, Just have a quick question for you.   I adjusted the timing on my 
>>> 97 NA  to 14 degrees.  We set it using a timing light and while keeping 
>>> an eye on a scangauge in side the car to see what the ecu was saying it 
>>> is.  timing light says we are at ~14 but the ecu is still reporting 10 
>>> at idle.  does it always report it as 10 or is there some other issue 
>>> that I should be worried about.
>>>
>>> I will say this though, since I bumped the timing it runs much smoother 
>>> and feels much quicker while accelerating.  no more hesitation from 
>>> 1k-4k rpm.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am going to drop it back off to 12 degrees on thursday. My rings seems 
>>> to be letting more oil past now...  just can't keep up with the extra 
>>> pressure I guess.   Hoping to have money for rebuild over the 
>>> winter/spring. on that note, any tips on where I should look for parts 
>>> and pricing on all that?  head was recently replaced with a rebuilt 
>>> unit. so I think just a head gasket and a lower end rebuild should be 
>>> enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank!
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