Hi! I'm back :) A bit more explanation about how the Targa works. It's a lot more than a TSD. Each class is given a base time for a stage, both in terms of elapsed time and in terms of average speed. For example, we might have to maintain a minimum speed of 121 km/h through a certain stage. Unlike a TSD, this doesn't change throughout the stage, nor is it necessarily an achievable number. That last bit is important. TSDs are about self-control as much as anything else, as you try to maintain 33 mph on a fairly open road with a 35 mph limit. I went by one 30 km/h sign doing 150 km/h, that's not The TSD Way :) If you finish the stage within the base time, you don't get penalties. If you can't finish in time, you get one penalty point per second that you're late. And nobody finishes without penalties, there are certain stages that it's simply not possible. In other words, all stages are run at maximum attack. The navigator tells you what's over blind crests, what the next turn looks like, if there are special dangers, major bumps, etc. Instead of the typical TSD instruction of "turn left at Grossman Ave", you get "in 50 meters, over crest into medium left, caution gravel cut". Which is different than "medium left over crest" or "over crest then medium left". In previous years, there was an FIA-mandated maximum average speed for any stage - 130 km/h, I think. You got penalties for cracking this, and only on certain stages was it even possible. However, since the Targa Newfoundland is no longer FIA-sanctioned, this is gone. There is a blanket speed limit of 200 km/h on the event, but you're not exactly rolling down the interstate and we never managed to hit more than 190 despite trying pretty hard :) And that was exciting, we were rocking down a road we'd never seen before with Why are there penalty points and base times? So the vintage guys have a chance. They're driving slower cars, so they can't compete on sheer speed. So basically, you're handicapped based on your car's age, engine size and modification level. It works pretty well, the top 10 this year ranged from a 1969 BMW 2002 (1st) to a factory-backed Mitsubishi Evo with a pro driver behind the wheel (3rd) to a 1969 Camaro that was sucking the white lines off the road (4th) to a hybrid Lexus driven amazingly well (6th) to an honest-to-god Group B Quattro driven by a multiple champion gravel specialist (10th). So the results show the total penalty points. If you want to see the actual stage times, you can spot them on the "Targa Stages in Details" pages such as http://rallyscoring.com/results/2008/Targa/Targa2008Stage0leg2.htm, linked from http://rallyscoring.com/results/2008/Targa/index.htm.
Keith Tanner Flyin' Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.flyinmiata.com <http://www.flyinmiata.com/> 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders) 1-970-464-5600 (tech) ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Cardell Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: RE: TargaMiata Jim, You might find more info on Keith's site, www.targamiata.com Basically it's a big Time/speed/distance rally, where you are told where to go and what your average speed has to be. At checkpoints your time is checked and you gain points against you for being late. This is the first year for the Targa where you didn't also lose points for being early, which is more typical of TSD alleys. Bill Cardell TurboDog's Dad www.flyinmiata.com www.fmwestfield.com Sales 1-800-359-6957 Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: TargaMiata Could someone offer a short 5th-grade-level description of what exactly this race is? I looked at every page on the Targa web site but could not find an actual description. I'm just not understanding the times posted. "We offer a 2200 kilometre course with scenery & competition we know you won't find anywhere else" "Official Classification end of Leg 5, 1969 BMW 2002, Total Time, 0:00:25" I'm reading it to say 2,200KM in length. Fastest total time was 25 sec.? Thanks, Jim in Tucson In a message dated 9/23/2008 3:17:20 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Keith and Janel Larry White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5 LowCountry Miata http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net <http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net/> Masters Miata RAGS 074 From: Tony Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:42 AM To: Larry Alster Cc: 'Rob Ebersol'; 'Keith Tanner'; 'Miata Power List' Subject: Re: TargaMiata Is this anyone we know??? http://www.targanewfoundland.com/static/images/gallery/IMG_4331.jpg Larry Alster wrote: Half way through the event Keith stopped updating his blog but up to that point the only issue he mentioned was a damaged shock from a hard landing after they went over a jump in the road. Looks like the Miata makes a pretty good rally car!!! Larry White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5 LowCountry Miata http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net <http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net/> Masters Miata RAGS 074 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Ebersol Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:11 AM To: Keith Tanner Cc: Miata Power List Subject: Re: TargaMiata Awesome job! Congrats to Keith and Janel (and FM)! On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Larry Alster wrote: The results are in and Keith and Janel finished 1st in their class and 16th overall beating some pretty decent machinery and drivers. Good job guys, congratulations and thanks for doing Miata people proud!!! http://www.targanewfoundland.com/news/entry/2008-final-results-photos/ Larry White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5 LowCountry Miata http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net <http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net/> Masters Miata RAGS 074 _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower ________________________________ Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1209382257x1200540686/aol?redir =http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001> .
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