Very good,  I understand “interference fit”.  It goes right along with KISS.

 

Ralph

 

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From: Ray Ayala [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:27 AM
To: Ralph Alder; [email protected]
Subject: Re: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts

 

OEMs have used these for centuries (literally).  There are a couple of
variations such as being slightly larger in diameter or having narrow-angle
thread grooves to produce a friction fit.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Ralph Alder <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: 'Bob Bundy' <mailto:[email protected]>  ; [email protected]


Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:56 PM

Subject: RE: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts

 

I, for one, have seen these posted here, and I have the same question then
as now: just how do self-locking threads work?  It isn’t obvious from the
catalog page drawing.  Are the threads cut fore instance, instead of say 24
tpi do they have 23.5tpi and just jamb fit in the hole or is there a much
more clever method?

 

Ralph Alder

Curious In Orange Co.

 


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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Bundy
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts

 

Anybody use these studs? They have self locking threads on one end. I plan
to use 10mm self locking thread studs and the wedge lock washers when I put
things back together. 

 

http://www.mcmaster.com/#self-locking-threaded-studs/=19k229

 

Driven on the street I never have a problem. lots of track duty and
everything goes wrong. 

 

Bob

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bill Cardell <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: Emilio - <mailto:[email protected]>  949Racing ; MiataPower
<mailto:[email protected]>  

Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:04 PM

Subject: RE: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts

 

We have had studs come out, mainly on track driven cars. I'd have to
disagree about the stage 8s, though. They also address the stud coming out.

 

TurboDog's Dad 
Bill Cardell 
www.flyinmiata.com 
1-800-FLY-MX5S 
970-464-5600 tech support 
Don't miss our Summer Camp! August 6-9 

 

 


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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emilio - 949Racing
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:40 PM
To: MiataPower
Subject: Re: loosening turbo to mani and turbo to d/p nuts

My experience has been that its more the studs backing out. So even, stage
8's, Nordlocks, safety wire and what not doesn't always fix it. Someone at
MRLS mentioned that FM may be switching to or optionally offering 10mm studs
with their kits. The extra surface area does seem to make them stay put
longer. 10m studs have been de rigueur for turbo Miatas that see a lot of
track use  but  its trickling down to street cars slower it seems. I haven't
tried green, hi temp cylindrical bonding Loctite but that might help.
Another fix might be staking them, but that may raise cracking issues with
cast manifolds.

Jason, you don't track your car do you? That's when stuff falls off :) I've
seen daily driven turbo cars that have never had an an issue on the street,
not make one session at the track before a stud or two backs out.

But to answer your question yes, it's endemic for turbo track miatas.

 

Emilio Cervantes

 <http://www.949racing.com/> www.949Racing.com

26242 Dimension Dr #130

Lake Forest, CA 92630

949.716.3111 phone / fax

On 2009-04-02 03:05, Jason C wrote: 
> A lot of people seem to have this problem (though not me)....I want to
understand why some do and some don't. Â  Some do despite the fancy serrated
FM washers.Do FM see this problem?

 

 


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