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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Young
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:25 PM
To: Mark Cookson
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Response: ABC News' John Stossel Blows Lid off ObamaCare
MIATA POWER LIST, PEOPLE -
MIATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark Cookson wrote:
I only needed to wait a week for my MRI (which was this morning), and
that was a non-critical MRI; plus it was with the new "big magnet"
high resolution MRI. I'm sure it cost more but, hey, I'm worth it.
And that's the problem with trying to let market forces set the
price,
because how much is not being in pain worth? It will cost me up to my
$2000 yearly deductible for me, but how much it costs my insurance
company, who knows, and I didn't really care last week. And I didn't
even consider the "cheaper" option of trying random physical therapy
things to see if something else might have worked (knowing full well
that I'm going to go to PT, but at least now we'll know what for).
I decided to spend thousands of someone else's dollars without giving
it a second thought. How much is not dying worth to you? Now how much
is it worth to you if you can get someone else to pay for it? People
will spend all that they have and then borrow more just to live or
live a life without pain. When you know people are willing to spend
more than they have, or spend someone else's money without thinking
about it, why would you ever charge less?
Having insurance companies making billions of dollars a year in
profit
shows that someone (and it really doesn't seem like "many") are
getting rich off of the suffering of others. A not-for-profit
insurance company doesn't mean that people work for free, it just
means that the CEO doesn't make $250 million a year, which seems
completely reasonable to me.
Plus I think there's a bit of a moral obligation to help the sick.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
not fruitless. anyway, you can set a filter in your email to take
a part of this subject line and direct it into another folder. you
COULD send them right to the trash bin, but if you save them,
you'll have something to read while you wait 3 mos for an MRI...
lol
anyway just set a filter and you'll be good.
on that same topic, I filter my miata power messages into a miata
folder by filtering on any message set TO "miatapower". I also
filter two other groups the same way. I find it very helpful to
automatically sort messages into their correct folder.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Response: ABC News' John Stossel Blows Lid off
ObamaCare
From: "Matt" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thu, September 24, 2009 1:30 pm
To: "Jim Wilson" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]
>
Is there a way to temporarily shut off emails from miatapower.
This discussion is fruitless and wasting bandwidth.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jim Wilson <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Cc:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:32 PM
*Subject:* RE: Response: ABC News' John Stossel Blows Lid
off ObamaCare
"rate premiums according to the insured's income"..so now
I should pay more for my dental cleaning than the guy
after me getting the same service who earns less.. are you
kidding me?!!! How about my car? Gas, food, water, oil,
beer, etc..
Besides - we're already doing that - it's called income
tax - and that's broken too.
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*From:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
*Casey Wheeler
*Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:00 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Cc:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: Response: ABC News' John Stossel Blows Lid
off ObamaCare
It hasn't been a problem because the people paying for it
havent made it an issue. Like all companies and
industries, were there is a need, a company(s) will fill
it. I do t believe pre-existing conditions is "that" big
of a deal, other wise INS. Companies would create special
policies to address them. Of course they want to create as
many policies as possible and cover as many people as
possible.... To make more money!!! It doesn't make since
that they wouldn't want to do that. It may be expensive,
and rightly so, but it can be done. Secondly, it is normal
procedure to deny coverage on say 30% of DME claims. Most
people don't pay any attention and go ahead and pay pay
for the dme themselves. It might he a shifty way to do
things but, it's 30% that the INS doesn't have to pay
becuase you weren't paying attention.
Healthcare is expensive, and I want the best I can afford.
To have the best, you have to put in more. People the
world over come here to be healed. God bless'em. And even
at this point our researcher can still make enough money
to produce new, better products and procedures. You take
away this incentive and the business will shrink. I sure
as hell won't work for less than I'm worth, let alone
free....
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:32 AM, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
In a message dated 9/24/2009 8:23:54 A.M. Eastern
Standard Time, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> writes:
The answer to the problem is to allow companies to
create plans that people want. Stop the govt from
mandating that everything under the sun has to be
covered in every plan and let me choose exactly
what I want to pay for. Let companies compete
across state lines, let small companies pool
together to get discounts. Lastly, why don't we
get the govt to quit taking half my pay check and
let me put MY money where it needs to go.
Casey
Sent from my iPhone
The Health Care industry has had many decades to
address the problems and they have not done so.
Why is that? It is because they don't want to address
the problems. They're making money. They don't want to
lower premiums or rate premiums according to the
insured's income. They don't want to deal with people
who may have pre-existing conditions. They don't want
to pay for the insured person's health care.
They DO want to collect premiums.
Jerry aka LGO
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