I only needed to wait a week for my MRI (which was this morning), and that
was a non-critical MRI; plus it was with the new "big magnet" high
resolution MRI.  I'm sure it cost more but, hey, I'm worth it.
And that's the problem with trying to let market forces set the price,
because how much is not being in pain worth?  It will cost me up to my $2000
yearly deductible for me, but how much it costs my insurance company, who
knows, and I didn't really care last week.  And I didn't even consider the
"cheaper" option of trying random physical therapy things to see if
something else might have worked (knowing full well that I'm going to go to
PT, but at least now we'll know what for).

I decided to spend thousands of someone else's dollars without giving it a
second thought.  How much is not dying worth to you?  Now how much is it
worth to you if you can get someone else to pay for it?  People will spend
all that they have and then borrow more just to live or live a life without
pain.  When you know people are willing to spend more than they have, or
spend someone else's money without thinking about it, why would you ever
charge less?

Having insurance companies making billions of dollars a year in profit shows
that someone (and it really doesn't seem like "many") are getting rich off
of the suffering of others.  A not-for-profit insurance company doesn't mean
that people work for free, it just means that the CEO doesn't make $250
million a year, which seems completely reasonable to me.

Plus I think there's a bit of a moral obligation to help the sick.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> not fruitless.  anyway, you can set a filter in your email to take a
> part of this subject line and direct it into another folder. you COULD send
> them right to the trash bin, but if you save them, you'll have something to
> read while you wait 3 mos for an MRI... lol
>
> anyway just set a filter and you'll be good.
>
> on that same topic, I filter my miata power messages into a miata folder by
> filtering on any message set TO "miatapower".  I also filter two other
> groups the same way.   I find it very helpful to automatically sort messages
> into their correct folder.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Response: ABC News' John Stossel Blows Lid off ObamaCare
> From: "Matt" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, September 24, 2009 1:30 pm
> To: "Jim Wilson" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
>
> Is there a way to temporarily shut off emails from miatapower.  This
> discussion is fruitless and wasting bandwidth.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Wilson <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:32 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Response: ABC News' John Stossel Blows Lid off ObamaCare
>
>  “rate premiums according to the insured's income”….so now I should pay
> more for my dental cleaning than the guy after me getting the same service
> who earns less…… are you kidding me?!!!  How about my car? Gas, food, water,
> oil, beer, etc….
> Besides – we’re already doing that – it’s called income tax – and that’s
> broken too.
>
>  ------------------------------
>  *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Casey Wheeler
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:00 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Response: ABC News' John Stossel Blows Lid off ObamaCare
>
>  It hasn't been a problem because the people paying for it havent made it
> an issue. Like all companies and industries, were there is a need, a
> company(s) will fill it. I do t believe pre-existing conditions is "that"
> big of a deal, other wise INS. Companies would create special policies to
> address them. Of course they want to create as many policies as possible and
> cover as many people as possible.... To make more money!!! It doesn't make
> since that they wouldn't want to do that. It may be expensive, and rightly
> so, but it can be done. Secondly, it is normal procedure to deny coverage on
> say 30% of DME claims. Most people don't pay any attention and go ahead and
> pay pay for the dme themselves. It might he a shifty way to do things but,
> it's 30% that the INS doesn't have to pay becuase you weren't paying
> attention.
>
>  Healthcare is expensive, and I want the best I can afford. To have the
> best, you have to put in more. People the world over come here to be healed.
> God bless'em. And even at this point our researcher can still make enough
> money to produce new, better products and procedures. You take away this
> incentive and the business will shrink. I sure as hell won't work for less
> than I'm worth, let alone free....
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:32 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>   In a message dated 9/24/2009 8:23:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>  The answer to the problem is to allow companies to create plans that
> people want. Stop the govt from mandating that everything under the sun has
> to be covered in every plan and let me choose exactly what I want to pay
> for. Let companies compete across state lines, let small companies pool
> together to get discounts. Lastly, why don't we get the govt to quit taking
> half my pay check and let me put MY money where it needs to go.
>
>  Casey
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>  The Health Care industry has had many decades to address the problems and
> they have not done so.
>  Why is that?  It is because they don't want to address the problems.
> They're making money.  They don't want to lower premiums or rate premiums
> according to the insured's income.  They don't want to deal with people who
> may have pre-existing conditions.  They don't want to pay for the insured
> person's health care.
>  They DO want to collect premiums.
>
>  Jerry aka LGO
>
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