"Think indestructible teenager with a learner’s permit, a self-centered attitude and a high-powered Miata".
You know if I didn't know better, I would have thought you were talking about me! (I'll be young till the day I die!) Cheers, Quentin J Sarafinchan, B.Sc. On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Mark Phillips <[email protected]>wrote: > “Free market always creates the best policy”, I disagree. The current > economic climate is a testament to that. Industries need regulation or they > will continue out of control until someone gets hurt. After that, they will > continue until they get hurt or are stopped. The really bad ones continue > regardless. Think indestructible teenager with a learner’s permit, a > self-centered attitude and a high-powered Miata (I finally worked some list > related content in J). > > > > Mark > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Casey Wheeler > *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2009 12:19 PM > *To:* Bret Dodson > *Cc:* [email protected]; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate > > > > I am confident in my views, my experince and research prove it to be > correct. But, I don't think the syste > > is without issues that need to be resolved. You should not be able to be > dropped once you contract a disease. Docotrs should be able to prescrib > exactly what the want for a patient. This experimental stuff is BS I come > across in my job as well, and as you stated, it occurs within standard > procedural operations. These as well as the INS across state lines, tort > reform etc etc would make a huge difference in not only peoples satisfaction > with the business, as well as bring the cost down. > > > > Free market always creates the best policy. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Bret Dodson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wow Casey you're pretty confident of your health and coverage. > > > > Here is something I see all the time working at one of the largest cancer > research institutions in the world. > > > > Suppose you get cancer. Your insurance will probably cover a first round of > standard treatment. What if that doesn't work? Or, what if your doctors > (you'll have several) think your best option is something the insurance > companies consider "experimental" (they try to consider bunches of typical > treatments "experimental" even though they have been standard treatment for > years). This "experimental" treatment gets paid by you. > > > > At my employer, patients need to come to their first appointment with two > things: information on their past treatment and six figures of cash. > > > > Yes, this is heartbraking. I suppose all the people against reforming > healthcare without $100,000+ cash sitting within easy reach would be good > citizens and let themselves die. > > > > Not me, but I at least respect their dedication. > > > > I'm driving the Miata today. It makes all the pediatric patients smile. > > Bret > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:59 AM, Casey Wheeler < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > > Jim is absolutly correct and probably makes the point better than I did. > Most people have health conditions due to their own choices. Furthermore, > people without ins. Don't have ins. by their own doing. The people that > "need" social healthcare are the people who are most apathetic. We all have > the freedom and choice to take this path or another. If people make better > choices, life is better/easier. Our society has become so... So lazy, > pathetic, apathtic... Something, I can't find the right description... Take > some personal responsibility and handle your business. > > > > Casey > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 25, 2009, at 8:18 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > [email protected] wrote: > > I decided I must weigh in on this one after all. I do work at the largest > hospital in my immediate area, which just happens to be the only for profit > hospital in southern Arizona. My observations are first hand, not something > I've seen on TV or read about. > > > > I don't honestly believe we have a 'healthcare' crisis. I believe that we > do have a 'wellness' crisis. More accurately, a lack of wellness crisis. The > vast majority of the patients I see in the healthcare system are sick due to > their own lifestyle choices. We have an entire generation of citizens who > think that they are owed everything: police protection, fire protection, > healthcare, etc. Personal responsibility is way undervalued by our current > culture. > > > > Numerous hospitalizations could be avoided entirely by simply getting an > annual physical exam where the physician has the opportunity to catch the > signals of a possible or impending issue and take preemptive measures. > > > > 'You are what you eat' is a manta of any good cardiac rehab program. > However, if adopted as a normal part of one's life, it could have been what > keep you out of cardiac care in the first place. > > > > I don't think I need to point out the shift to a sedentary lifestyle that > the vast majority of people have adopted. > > > > Practicing wellness is hard work. Most people would much prefer to ignore > good lifestyle choices and then push the responsibility for their well being > off onto someone else. > > > > Jim in Tucson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Miatapower mailing list > <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > [email protected] > <http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower><http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower> > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > > _______________________________________________ > Miatapower mailing list > <[email protected]>[email protected] > <http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower> > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > > > _______________________________________________ > Miatapower mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower > >
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