Why do you HATE HIGHLY PAID PEOPLE?
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:58 PM, "Dan Scolnick" <[email protected]>
wrote:
oh pullleeze!
had the HIGH PAID bankers stuck to their fiduciary responsibilities
AND DONE THEIR JOBS,
the banks would not have failed, regardless of the impetus the
government put on them.
the government gave them incentive, the incentive was GREED. it was
GREED for the borrowers, it was GREED for the lenders.
let's see what the outcome is.
The HIGHLY paid bankers, who were the only ones with fiduciary
responsibility, got to keep all the money they made.
The borrowers got to live in a nice house for a little while, and
now they're out.
We the taxpayers put in all the money,
and NOW
the HIGHLY paid bankers are buying the houses at foreclosure to make
their next killing on the same stuff.
AND they get continued be paid far in excess of their worth to the
economy.
in fact the worst offenders are the highest paid.
Free markets seem to only count when the oligarchy is making their
money.
dan
From: [email protected] [mailto:miatapower-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Casey Wheeler
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:53 PM
To: Mark Phillips
Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate
No I feel that people should pay attention to things. The banks for
instance.... Had the government not forced them to lend to so risky
people, some banks would not have failed. Some would have, sure. But
that's a free market. Things need to fail. It creates new
oppurtunities.
Artificial limits and regulation put on most markets slow growth and
hurt competition. Adam smith was a smart man.
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:42 PM, "Mark Phillips" <[email protected]
> wrote:
“Free market always creates the best policy”, I disagree. The
current economic climate is a testament to that. Industries need r
egulation or they will continue out of control until someone gets
hurt. After that, they will continue until they get hurt or are st
opped. The really bad ones continue regardless. Think indestructib
le teenager with a learner’s permit, a self-centered attitude and
a high-powered Miata (I finally worked some list related content i
n J).
Mark
From: [email protected] [mailto:miatapower-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Casey Wheeler
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:19 PM
To: Bret Dodson
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate
I am confident in my views, my experince and research prove it to
be correct. But, I don't think the syste
is without issues that need to be resolved. You should not be able
to be dropped once you contract a disease. Docotrs should be able
to prescrib exactly what the want for a patient. This experimental
stuff is BS I come across in my job as well, and as you stated, it
occurs within standard procedural operations. These as well as the
INS across state lines, tort reform etc etc would make a huge
difference in not only peoples satisfaction with the business, as
well as bring the cost down.
Free market always creates the best policy.
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Bret Dodson <[email protected]> wrote:
Wow Casey you're pretty confident of your health and coverage.
Here is something I see all the time working at one of the largest
cancer research institutions in the world.
Suppose you get cancer. Your insurance will probably cover a first
round of standard treatment. What if that doesn't work? Or, what
if your doctors (you'll have several) think your best option is
something the insurance companies consider "experimental" (they
try to consider bunches of typical treatments "experimental" even
though they have been standard treatment for years). This
"experimental" treatment gets paid by you.
At my employer, patients need to come to their first appointment
with two things: information on their past treatment and six
figures of cash.
Yes, this is heartbraking. I suppose all the people against
reforming healthcare without $100,000+ cash sitting within easy
reach would be good citizens and let themselves die.
Not me, but I at least respect their dedication.
I'm driving the Miata today. It makes all the pediatric patients
smile.
Bret
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On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:59 AM, Casey Wheeler
<[email protected]> wrote:
Jim is absolutly correct and probably makes the point better than
I did. Most people have health conditions due to their own
choices. Furthermore, people without ins. Don't have ins. by
their own doing. The people that "
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