Cosworth pulled the kit after a couple engines popped. Spectacularly
good hardware, at the time not so good software. IMHO, software issues
were the cause of the problems, not engine strength issues. The kit is
back out (we're selling it), Cosworth is out of the business of
providing a software solution and we are doing reflashes that work.
Brian is helping us test.
 

Bill Cardell 
TurboDog's Dad 
www.flyinmiata.com 
www.fmwestfield.com 
Sales 1-800-359-6957 
Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out
http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/ 

 

________________________________

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of nsu Tolich
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 12:17 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Chad J.
Douglas
Subject: RE: NC Engine Strongest Rods?


Chad
 
A good call:  Cosworth has issues/had issue with Supercharger on NC.
Why don't you ask Goodwin for feedback, or simply talk to Cosworth in
LA.
I am sure Stephanie followed that thread-news fact- as well.
Cosworth nearly stopped selling NC supercharger, I believe/it is my
understanding, due to issues with engine management and the piggy back
they were using.
 
Ivica

--- On Mon, 6/21/10, Chad J. Douglas <[email protected]> wrote:



        From: Chad J. Douglas <[email protected]>
        Subject: RE: NC Engine Strongest Rods?
        To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
        Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:38 AM
        
        

        Stephanie,  I don't mean to suggest anything about the quality
of the tune.  As OEM ECUs get smarter, they may be able compensate for
what a piggyback ECU does.  Since Piggys effectively "lie" to the stock
ECU or intercept its commands and change them, I was concerned that the
stock computer could have trimmed the extra fuel out.

         

          

          

        From: Stephanie Turner [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 1:34 PM
        To: Chad J. Douglas; [email protected]
        Subject: RE: NC Engine Strongest Rods?

          

        800 miles of tuning says the ECU did not "outsmart" the Xede.
Experience tuning 12 NC's says the Xede was not "outsmarted". Seriously?


          

        I will look up info on the motors and let you know. 

          

        Stephanie

          

        BEGi / Bell Engineering 

        Phone: 830.438.2890 

        Fax: 830.438.8361 

        www.bellengineering.net 

          

        Please include all previous correspondence when replying to an
e-mail. Prices quoted are good for 30 days. 

          

        From: Chad J. Douglas [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
        To: [email protected]; [email protected]
        Subject: RE: NC Engine Strongest Rods?

          

        So..  were there differences in the 2.0L engines between manual
and auto trannies?  If he orders one from a manual car, can the parts be
swapped or are we hosed? 

          

        How can we be sure that the XEDE wasn't outsmarted by the stock
ECU, causing a lean condition?  Once I get the motor out I'll get lots
of pics, so perhaps we'll just have to wait on that one. 

          

          

          

          

        From: Stephanie Turner [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:57 AM
        To: Chad J. Douglas; [email protected]
        Subject: RE: NC Engine Strongest Rods?

          

        Chad, 

        Go with the 2006 motor, if you can find one with an auto tranny.
If it came off of another NC, it will be a direct swap. If you end up
having to get the Duratec 2.0L Motor out of another car, then there
might some converting to do. But not a whole lot. 

          

        Having swapped NC motors before, you will not find many issues.
It is pretty straight forward and easy enough to do. Be careful taking
the CAM sensor off. It breaks very easily. 

          

        Stephanie

          

        BEGi / Bell Engineering 

        Phone: 830.438.2890 

        Fax: 830.438.8361 

        www.bellengineering.net 

          

        Please include all previous correspondence when replying to an
e-mail. Prices quoted are good for 30 days. 

          

        From: Chad J. Douglas [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:47 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: NC Engine Strogest Rods?

          

        I am working on an engine swap on a 2007 GT Automatic with a
BEGi S3 kit installed.  The engine blew up under boost. 

          

        Some of the research I've been doing suggests that one of the
other years' engines may have stronger internals.  Is this true?  If so,
what year should I look for in the wrecking yard, and will there be any
issues adapting that engine into a 2007 chassis? 

          

        Worst-case, I'll just get another 2007 engine, but if the 2007s
have weaker internals, I'd not want this car to suffer the same fate. 

          

        Thoughts? 

          

          

        I need to know soon, since we need to get the replacement engine
ordered within the next week or so. 

          

        Thanks! 

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