Mark has some great ideas, especially for Northern climes (porous floor, 
plywood).

It’s sort of like when somebody asks which FI system is best.  The choir chimes 
in to ask “how do you plan to use it?”  Is your garage a work space, a 
man-cave, a mother-in-law suite?  Do you have buddies over or work by yourself? 
 Do you care what it looks like or just how it functions?

Generic suggestion though: LOTS of light.  You can always turn some off if you 
want, but lots and lots of fluorescent fixtures make it easier on aging eyes to 
see that @#*%$# fitting.

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Cookson
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:36 PM
To: Ken Bogart
Cc: Miatapower ([email protected])
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Wally's future Garage-Mahal

Two things that I did that I really liked in my first garage:

Covered the walls in 3/8 plywood instead of drywall (mount anything anywhere 
without worry)
Ran hard lines with air fittings about every 15' (about 8 connections) and had 
two retractable reels on the ceiling for instant use; one air, one electric.

I also have a wash basin (but only cold water, might consider a small hot water 
heater) and more power outlets than you can shake a stick at, including one in 
the middle of the floor for the table saw.

My second garage has Internet and TV, and the previous owner had flexible air 
lines that he took when he sold it.

Making a good sound dampening box for the air compressor would be high on my 
list too.

I currently want to do something like those plastic floor tiles that raise you 
up a quarter of an inch to let snow and water drain below the working surface.

A lift or pit would be ideal, but my roof is too low and tearing up my floor 
isn't really in the cards.

Enjoy!
Mark

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On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Ken Bogart 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
When I build mine..   I want the following:

- 2-post lift bay
- a walled and drained wash bay
- a work bay (machine tools, work bench)
- a room for hanging out with couch, tv, bar, bathroom
- open indoor area to park at least 6 cars
- a storage/parts area (in a loft?)

I figure this would have to be at least 2500sf or larger...


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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Helsel, Walt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So, moving to a new home.. going to have either an existing or built pole 
building for the car-addiction.  Looking for those of you with Garage-Mahals to 
chime in.  Right now I am working out of a 2 stall garage 24x24x8.  Workbench 
in the front on a 5’ deep raised stoop, wood heated, partially insulated.  
There is not enough width for working on cars with crap along walls (crap being 
a parts washer, bench grinder, shelving, etc) and it’s fairly crowded with all 
the big stuff (woodstove, engine hoist, engine stand, blast cabinet, drill 
press, band saw, table saw, 3 welders, etc) that is all roaming the space.  So, 
looking for suggestions and advice from those of you that have dedicated hobby 
space…

Things you would do again
Things you regret doing
Layout suggestions
Storage ideas
Workbench ideas (location, layout, etc)

Anything else you think might be useful.  I would love to go to a 2 post lift 
down the road so I want at least one high bay for that, but for now I’m 
thinking something like this:

28’w x 40 (or 48’)’l x 14’h
2 stalls wide, with workshop in the front (away from the doors)
2 overhead doors on short end, 1 mandoor, some windows of some variety for 
light.
Concrete floor and approach
220v electric
Water if I am lucky
Insulated and heated (Michigan winters)
Will be wired for music, internet and phone as well.

So, toss your ideas out.. I’m game to start figuring out how to set up the 
future work space!
Wallyman



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