His communication to me was that they were planning to "jump into the fray" -- which I took to mean "do stuff here" -- after they announce the project. I stressed the process, especially "document existing practices" and, roughly speaking, "build on what's been done".
They seem to have a lot of PR folk involved; if each one documents an example they'll be well on their way. Regards, etc... On 9/14/06, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chris Heuer's also a personal friend and I've reminded him on occasion to locate his work to the Microformats wiki, but he seems to be content to work on his own. I don't think the process need always use the mf.org wiki, but it certainly help -- since many folks watch the changelog. So long as Chris knows that he could consult or work more closely with us, I don't necessary see an issue with his work; I think it's premature to call it a microformat or to name it, but besides that, no biggie. Chris On 9/14/06, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been in touch with them, offered to help them out, and my > understanding is they're planning to "follow the process". Also, one > of the key guys, Chris Heuer is friends with Tantek. > > Regards, etc... > David > > On 9/14/06, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We could, but I don't know if it's that a big of a deal. > > > > I mean, the community will dictate what gets adopted and what doesn't. > > Implementation is a much better "seal of approval" enforcement that > > going for real legal protection. IMHO. > > > > ;) > > > > Chris > > > > On 9/14/06, Don Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My advice is to get some legal protection and introduce 'seal of approval' > > > as an option so microformats can be created outside the group as well. > > > Otherwise, this will happen over and over. - Don > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris > > > Messina > > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:43 AM > > > To: Microformats Discuss > > > Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Social Media Group? > > > > > > I'm not involved with it, but I'm aware of it. > > > > > > This is Chris Heuer's project. > > > > > > I don't quite see how this is a microformat in the community sense though > > > the goals are similar. In some ways, it's kind of like the hWidget project > > > that was developed outside the microformats community and process, which, as > > > we've seen, has resulted in lesser adoption. > > > > > > I don't quite understand why they're working outside the microformats > > > community, except that it's not the traditional folks who work on standards > > > or webdev who are involved (i.e. PR firms). > > > > > > I do take issue with the way that they're going about building out this work > > > and calling it a microformat; in some respects, this is where, as a > > > community mark, the microformats community should make clear how it feels > > > about work of this nature being called a "microformat" that has exclusivity > > > baked into its community model: > > > > > > "Membership in the working group is subject to approval by the Social Media > > > Club advisory board" > > > > > > Their wiki is here: http://www.socialtext.net/hrelease/index.cgi > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > On 9/14/06, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Just found via a google alert: > > > > > > > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=162010 > > > > > > > > > SILICON VALLEY, CA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- September 12, 2006 -- On the > > > > > heels of its official launch, Social Media Club (SMC) formed the > > > > > Media Release Working Group to develop the hRelease, a new standard > > > > > for modernizing the traditional press release for a Web-centric world. > > > > > > > > > > The Media Release Working Group will work closely with the > > > > > Microformats community, while evaluating other technologies such as > > > > > XPRL, XBRL and NewsML to establish a standard way of organizing, > > > > > tagging, distributing and sharing "official" organizational > > > > > communications among blogs and other online communities. The group > > > > > intends to present an initial draft specification on Nov. 2 at the > > > > > Society for New Communications Research Symposium in Boston. > > > > > > > > ... and so on... > > > > > > > > I know there's been discussions of this "social media release" > > > > elsewhere on the interweb, but is there anyone here who's involved in > > > > the process? > > > > > > > > -ryan > > > > -- > > > > Ryan King > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > microformats-discuss mailing list > > > > microformats-discuss@microformats.org > > > > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Chris Messina > > > Citizen Provocateur & > > > Open Source Ambassador-at-Large > > > Work: http://citizenagency.com > > > Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog > > > Cell: 412 225-1051 > > > Skype: factoryjoe > > > This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private > > > _______________________________________________ > > > microformats-discuss mailing list > > > microformats-discuss@microformats.org > > > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > microformats-discuss mailing list > > > microformats-discuss@microformats.org > > > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Messina > > Citizen Provocateur & > > Open Source Ambassador-at-Large > > Work: http://citizenagency.com > > Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog > > Cell: 412 225-1051 > > Skype: factoryjoe > > This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private > > _______________________________________________ > > microformats-discuss mailing list > > microformats-discuss@microformats.org > > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > microformats-discuss mailing list > microformats-discuss@microformats.org > http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss > -- Chris Messina Citizen Provocateur & Open Source Ambassador-at-Large Work: http://citizenagency.com Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog Cell: 412 225-1051 Skype: factoryjoe This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
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