Ciaran McNulty wrote:
On Dec 13, 2007 3:19 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Robert O'Rourke wrote:
1. 16:03 isn't an abbreviation for 12 September 2007. That's
/additional/ information. So that should be a SPAN not an ABBR.


That was Benjamin's comment not mine. I suggested a human readable TITLE including the full date aswell as 16:03 and putting the machine-readable date format into the CLASS attribute but that was also a bad idea (too much accessibility etc...). That said I think it's better than putting the machine readable date/time format in the TITLE. Surely the parsers should be better able to figure that out from the human readable date and time and leave 2007-12-12T16:03:00Z out altogether? I know of at least one Perl module that does this [1]

I'd disagree with this.  16:03 in the context of your original page
*will* refer to 16:03 on a specific day (I'm finding it hard to think
of a non-contrived example where it wouldn't) - it's just abbreviated
to 16:03. A human would gather that information from context but it's
more explicit in the machine-readable version.


That was exactly my point when I wrote my example down. If putting machine-readable information in TITLE isn't good then perhaps it was a reasonable alternative re. accessibility, but of course there are many arguments either way. To quote Angus:

"title" on "abbr" (or "span") looks like the least bad of a set of bad
choices.

[1] http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/TimeDate-1.16/lib/Date/Parse.pm
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