On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 10:26 +0100, Frances Berriman wrote: > On 21/05/2008, Martin McEvoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have you tried something like this: > > > > <abbr class="dtstart" title="2008-05-15T19:30:00+01:00"> > > <span title="Seven Thirty">19:30</span> > > </abbr> > > > Hi Martin, > > It's not so much about "what to try" as the BBC using the hCalendar on > a new, very large site and not wanting to use a format that is either > likely to change (if the abbr pattern is changed/dropped) or causes > accessibility issues. They just want to help push through the current > discussion with some real data. > > Hopefully, this issue can be resolved *very soon* - I'd hate to see > /programmes have to drop their microformat implementation because of > one, relatively small, aspect of one format. >
Hmm It seems to me that the microformats community seems to find it difficult to resolve the abbr design issue[1], its been over a year now? I cant see why we cant accept the hAccessibility[2] solution and be done with it and just use a <span>, I believe most screen readers are not set up to read out loud the @title on a span by default. <span class="dtstart" title="20070312T1700-06"> March 12, 2007 at 5 PM, Central Standard Time </span> Another resolution I rather liked was to use <dfn>[3] instead as it is unlikely the @title will ever be read out loud on a dfn tag, dfn is hardly ever used in the "real-world" but to me is an extremely useful and "posh" tag, perfect for a microformat. <dfn class="dtstart" title="20070312T1700-06"> March 12, 2007 at 5 PM, Central Standard Time </dfn> Oh well hopefully the abbr issue can be resolved amicably this time around as there seems to be a few "usable" resolutions[4], if not, lets all talk about it again Next Year :) [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/accessibility-issues#abbr-design-pattern [2] http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/ [3] http://microformats.org/wiki/dfn-design-pattern [4] http://microformats.org/wiki/assistive-technology-abbr-results#Valid_HTML4 Thanks Martin > Thanks, though! > _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss