Please add any hCard issues you feel have yet to be addressed to
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-issues
or feel free to add
" * +1 [[User:yourwikiusernamehere]]"
to any current issue(s)/resolution(s) you feel strongly about.
Please also refrain from making reductio-ad-absurdum analogy arguments ("atom
bomb") as they, just like instances of Godwin's law, do very little to
constructively advance a discussion.
Thanks,
Tantek
-----Original Message-----
From: "Samuel Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:32:45
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Microformats
Discuss<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCard slowing adoption of microformats?
Your argument of a net-positive effect is compelling but, it makes
sense to me to deal with the issues as they present themselves,
perception being one of them. After all, the greater the
net-positive, the more compelling microformats are to use. I feel we
are not addressing the issues raised by hcard, specifically. Just
saying they have a net-positive effect does not warm my heart. The
atom bomb had a net-positive effect, too and now we're talking global
disarmament.
Cheers,
-mephtu
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Tantek Celik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Such companies are already going to far greater extents to scrape anything
> resembling contact information (without really caring about false positives
> etc since as your quotes point out quantity is their game) from text, HTML
> etc on the web using text entity recognizers etc.
>
> As long as you only markup already public information with hCard (or any
> other microformat), the effect is negligible on such companies, while it
> enables and benefits users and developers of user-centric apps, thus
> providing a net positive effect.
>
> Tantek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Samuel Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:48:38
> To: Microformats Discuss<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCard slowing adoption of microformats?
>
>
> How's this...?
>
> Using gmail, I happened to spy a list of supported links, here's one of them:
>
> Custom Web Scraping
> Data Extraction & Mining Service
> Buy up to 20,000 Records for $75.00
> RightHandMarketingManagement.com
>
> This reinforces the seriousness of the issue in my mind. If hCards
> are used as indiscriminately as the data in these websites, it would
> just pipeline the same information to companies of this ilk.
>
> -Sam
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:45 AM, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Samuel Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I read some blog posts this morning on microformats and a common
>>> concern (and I feel a legitimate one) is the "scraping of hCard's from
>>> web sites for future generations of spammers." I believe that fear,
>>> if left unaddressed, will kill the microformat effort. Has there been
>>> any discussion of this?
>>
>> You weren't going to fill us in on the URLs, were you?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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