The good news about hydro is that you do not need a large battery bank like wind and 
PV systems.
We install for most of our clients a battery bank of  8 x T105's at a cost of $2000 NZ 
(1400 US).
Many clients scrounge ex Telecom batteries for a crate of beer. We use an ex Telecom 
set ourselves that we were given and 10 years on we are still using them. There are 
still in very good order. 

With hydro you do not cycle your batteries much, this ensures they have a very long 
life. The batteries we are using at the moment are 23 years old and still going strong.

I would recommend a small Pelton turbine, on 15m head and 3 L/s you would generate 
over 200 Watts. With 5 kWhr per day at your disposal you will be able to chainsaw away 
for some time. All you will need is a large inverter and C40 regulator and you are in 
business.

The flexibility that being able to plug in normal power tools gives is much greater 
than compressed air. If you need compressed air just run a compressor off your 
inverter - we do in our workshop. So long as you have a 3-3.5 kW inverter with a good 
surge ability starting a 2.5 HP compressor is not problem.
Alternatively you can buy a smaller inverter and run a small compressor with a large 
storage tank. 
We run a lathe, compressor, welder, thicknesser, buzzer, dishwasher and clothes dryer 
all off a 3.0 kW inverter that has a 7 kW surge ability. We only generate about 300 
Watts most of the time. 


Regards



Michael Lawley
Renewable Energy Engineer
EcoInnovation
671 Kent Road
R.D.1
New Plymouth
New Zealand

Phone: (NZ)  06 752 2765
Web site: www.ecoinn.co.nz
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





. ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Forrest Robinson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:38 AM
  Subject: [microhydro] Storing energy as compressed air



  I have a unique piece of land that has a 100 year old cistern on top of 
  a waterfall. At some point I will re-establish the pipe and use the 
  ~50' of head for power generation via a pelton wheel at the bottom. I 
  am in no rush for power in the form of electricity since there is no 
  dwelling on the property and I cann't justify replacing batteries every 
  couple years.

  However, we often camp on land and do heavy crafts (chain saw rustic 
  furniture etc). It occurs to me that  I can put a flow over wheel 
  adjacent to the cistern and use it to drive an air compressor. I can 
  bury some  tanks in the ground for compressed air storage.

  From a control standpoint I suspect the wheel would stall once the 
  stored pressure reaches a limit or I can put an pressure relief valve 
  that dumps air into the water once it gets up to ~120psi. The fish 
  wouldn't mind additional airation of the water!

  The compressed air would drive all sorts of air tools. It would 
  probably be quite slow to recover a depleted tank, but that doesn't 
  matter. I can always add tanks, or go fishing.

  I'm thinking I can find an old-fashioned (oil type) compressor that 
  normally would have a 1-3 hp electric motor for a drive. My flow over 
  water wheel will be about 5' diameter with ~50 gpm flow so the hp I can 
  deliver to the compressor will be a small fraction of what the 
  compressor is capable of, however I will run it slower but with the 
  same torque. The torque seems to be just a matter of pully diameters.

  I question if air compressors are in-efficient if run slowly.

  If you have experience with this I'd love to get some feedback.

  Forrest Robinson






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