Hi,

 

Regarding use-cases below, the operator will likely rely on a centralized 
policy server; actually the 3GPP/ANDSF has been specified for that purpose.

 

Pierrick

 

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De : mif-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:mif-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Tao Sun
Envoyé : lundi 5 décembre 2011 20:25
À : Lorenzo Colitti
Cc : mif@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [mif] Use cases for draft-ietf-mif-dhcpv6-route-option needed

 

Ok. I reiterate the use cases and the justification of using DHCPv6. 

 

For the cellular network, I mainly focus on two use cases: 1) A host is 
connected to the cellular network and WiFi at the same time. Some traffic need 
to go cellular network, others go to WiFi. 2) A mobile host in the cellular 
network simultaneously connects to multiple APNs (taking APN1 and APN2 for 
example) . Some traffics go to APN1, others got to APN2.

 

The justification of adopt DHCPv6 is the following:

1) DHCPv6 is anyway shall be implemented and is suitable for parameter 
configuration. This is due to prefix delegation for tethering, network 
parameter configuration such as DNS, network server informaiton of IMS, etc.

2) DHCPv6 is more management/operation friendly due to the central control 
mechanism. 

3) DHCP has been already used for paramter configuration, while using RA will 
cause significant modification and enhancement for network elements and hosts, 
especially for per-subscriber purpose (e.g., using VLAN). 

4) Using RA to configure the route may cause potentially some messy. In 4G 
cellular network, both GTP and PMIP protocal are used for mobility management 
today. In GTP, it is a point-to-point link between mobile host and PGW. 
However, in PMIP, PGW send /64 prefix to SGW through PBA. The SGW sends RA to 
mobile host. If RA is also used for route configuration, how SGW obtains the 
specific route information? how about the complexity due to the large number of 
SGW as compared with PGW? how the SGW combine the multiple RA route informatio 
nreceived from sources in use case 2 since there is always only one SGW at a 
time? ... 

 

Based on above, using RA for SLAAC and DHCPv6 for route paramter configuration 
is a more effective way. 

 

In my view, the discussion is adequate enough to move the draft forward to 
version 4 and we shall not continue to stay on the necessity analysis. 

 

Tao Sun

 

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Lorenzo Colitti <lore...@google.com> wrote:

        On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:15, Tao Sun <hisun...@gmail.com> wrote:

                I'm not talking about mobile networks specifically here. I 
think this particular event (turning off RAs) is more likely that to happen on 
a wifi network or an enterprise network.

        As I pointed out in my previous email, WiFi network is already part of 
mobile network. China Mobile deployed about more than one hundred of thousand 
hotspots (over 1 million WiFi AP). Users use the same smart phone to visit 
cellular network and WiFi network.

         

        Ok, so then let's take a look at that use case and see why it requires 
a DHCPv6 route option to be defined. I suspect that you can do what you want 
using RIO.

 

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