Hi Randy,
It’s certainly not meant to be that way, and I apologize for the distraction. As with any discussion list, we occasionally become focused on topics that have limited appeal. I should know better by now. All, May I kindly suggest that this topic has run through whatever mileage it had and that we should move on? Many thanks to all, DW David Wardell (757) 561-0582 da...@wardell.org <mailto:da...@wardell.org> <https://wardell.us/url/b5s86> <https://wardell.us/url/s9qvz> From: randy essell via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:53 PM To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com Cc: Church Doug <dchurc...@gmail.com>; Kneisley Bob <bobkneisley...@gmail.com>; mifnet@lists.mifnet.com; randy essell <randy.ess...@hotmail.com> Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 73313] Re: Exclusive | Pete Buttigieg's DOT spent $80 billion on DEI grants, delayed air traffic control upgrades: records, industry insiders - New York Post 20250722 Just an observation. As a pretty new member of this group, I don’t like to lead with my chin. But it seems way too much time is spent on politics. The commentary leads me to believe the Mifnet is the aviation arm of the DNC. Just sayin’. RJE On Jul 24, 2025, at 11:07 AM, Bob Kneisley via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: Ah, now the real truth comes out. Anything from the New York Post must be ignored not because it's factually incorrect (for which there was no showing) but simply because it supposedly reflects the wrong political views. Who needs facts or even the First Amendment? We can just rely on Democrat Doug to specify what sources are acceptable for the Mifnet to use! Bob K <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> www.avast.com On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 7:37 PM Doug Church via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: I won’t withdraw this comment: the NY Post story is indeed HOGWASH. This is not a legitimate news source. It’s a right wing political propaganda entertainment source that loves to beat up on Democrats and is trying to get noticed and get clicks to survive, like everyone in that crowded space. This is not new. This is not controversial. Once you get past the ridiculous headline and lead paragraphs, there is some semblance of balance and fairness to the piece, complete with comment from former Secretary Buttigieg’s spokesperson. So at least there’s that. -Doug Church On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 5:03 PM F. Scott Wilson via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: Bob K, I withdraw my comment with apologies. I don’t want to invest the time, and lack the patience, to try to rebut the claims. Others have commented on the veracity (or not) of the claims, and the source. Notwithstanding its aviation connection (I guess), I do wonder why Dr Wardell chose to start a political string on the Mifnet, and with an article from the New York Post to boot (a newspaper I used to read on trips home on Metro North for the amusement and the puzzles). Now he’s trying to use an AI search function as an arbiter, which I don’t think I am prepared to accept - like Wikipedia, it may be "directionally correct” as a colleague used to say, but who knows? I’ll try hard to keep my knee-jerk reactions to myself in future. Scott On Jul 23, 2025, at 9:52 AM, Bob Kneisley via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: I'm curious Scott, how do you know "This is hogwash"? Do you have a counter-source to the New York Post article? Personally I don't know for sure if Buttigieg "shelled out tens of billions on a DEI agenda", tho it sounds at least plausible given his well-known political leanings. In any case, some evidence supporting your "hogwash" claim would be a lot more informative to the readers than a drive-by smear. Bob K <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> www.avast.com On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 3:52 PM F. Scott Wilson via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: Dr Wardell This is hogwash. Scott On Jul 22, 2025, at 3:24 PM, David Wardell via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: Sharing this lengthy New York Post piece <https://wardell.us/url/k5dgz> without comment, other than that it’s worth reading. A short sample: “WASHINGTON — Former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg failed to replace outdated air traffic control systems while in office — with his agency instead shelling out tens of billions of dollars on a DEI agenda, according to federal spending records and airline industry insiders. “In one meeting, Buttigieg — who is said to be eyeing a 2028 presidential run — told industry executives that air traffic control upgrades would just allow them to fly more planes, “and so why would that be in his interest?” sources said.” There are contrary views shared in the article, which <https://wardell.us/url/k5dgz> may be viewed here. 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