Likewise with the Lockheed 1011.
Bob Randal Craft Email: randalrobertcraft@gmailcom Mobile: 646-226-2299 (USA) From: RWM via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2025 3:09 PM To: ERIC Smith via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Cc: RWM <r...@rwmann.com> Subject: [Mifnet π° 73408] Re: Fw: Explored: All 16 Airlines Operating Narrowbody North American Transatlantic Flights In June Same comments/complaints about the nose-high 727 deck angle in cruise, and need to push service carts up-hill from the rear galley. Back when there were 727s and there was inflight economy meal service. - Bob Mann On 7/29/2025 7:53 AM, ERIC Smith via Mifnet wrote: AA did indeed have some trans-Atlantic service with 757s. I don't remember much about it except the FAs would complain about the deck angle during their service. Those carts seem very heavy when you have to push them up hill. Delta is now flying many of our old 757s across the Atlantic, quite profitably as I understand it. Sigh. Eric On 07/29/2025 3:59 AM EDT srbrown via Mifnet <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: Didn't AA operate "thinner" transatlantic routes on the 757 several years ago? I'm pretty sure my wife went to JFK from Manchester on a 757. Interesting how the article mentions the A320/1βneo and B737-max as the modern options yet it refers to the 757 as the "reliable 757". Does this imply the authors don't think the neos or the max are reliable? BA also operated the LCY-JFK route for several years on an A318 staging through Shannon on the westbound sector. Is Iceland to America truly "transatlantic"? Click "like" and "subscribe" then let me know in the comments. Simon -------- Original message -------- From: Jack Keady via Mifnet <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Date: 28/07/2025 19:43 (GMT+00:00) To: David Wardell via Mifnet <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Cc: Jack Keady <mailto:jjke...@aol.com> <jjke...@aol.com> Subject: [Mifnet π° 73385] Fw: Explored: All 16 Airlines Operating Narrowbody North American Transatlantic Flights In June keady Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 at 11:35:39 AM PDT Subject: Explored: All 16 Airlines Operating Narrowbody North American Transatlantic Flights In June AA currently has no narrowbody transatlantic service. When they get the A321XLR that will change. <https://static1.simpleflyingimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/airbus-a321xlr-fuselage-shutterstock_2479195465.jpg> simpleflying.com Explored: All 16 Airlines Operating Narrowbody North American Transatlantic Flights In June Out of the 16, there will be a single transatlantic domestic flight. <https://simpleflying.com/transatlantic-narrowbody-flights-june-explored/> π https://simpleflying.com/transatlantic-narrowbody-flights-june-explored/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: 20250507 You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't exactly cost-free. 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