Thanks Lassaad-- this matches our requirements as well.

We'll see if we can build the functionality to work this way.

Cheers,
Emily. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lassâad Ben Hadj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:19 AM
> To: Emily Tucker
> Cc: Wassim Ali-Hassan (Contractor); 'Mifos functional discussions'
> Subject: RE: Calculating loan amount based on amount of previous loan
> 
> Hi Emily,
> I think the system must check if the previous loan was paid 
> off at time of approval, since the loan approval must be 
> based on reliable informations.
> Cheers
> Lassaad
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Emily Tucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyé : Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:58 AM À : Lassâad Ben 
> Hadj Cc : Wassim Ali-Hassan (Contractor); Mifos functional 
> discussions Objet : RE: Calculating loan amount based on 
> amount of previous loan
> 
> Thanks Lassaad,
> 
> One clarification:
> If we did build this functionality in a way that supported 
> your requirements, when would you want the system to validate 
> that the previous loan was paid off?  Would you want the 
> system to check before the loan was moved into approved 
> state-- and if the previous loan wasn't yet paid off, then 
> give an error?  Or would you want the system to check only at 
> time of disbursement?
> 
> Checking only at time of disbursement would be too late for 
> MFIs that use collection sheets.  But checking at time of 
> approval would probably be OK.
> Would that work for you?
> 
> Emily.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lassâad Ben Hadj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:59 AM
> > To: Emily Tucker
> > Cc: Wassim Ali-Hassan (Contractor); 'Mifos functional discussions'
> > Subject: RE: Calculating loan amount based on amount of 
> previous loan
> > 
> > Hi Emily,
> > 
> > This feature is very interesting and it is not identified 
> for oxia to 
> > work on, only for financial reasons, but according to your 
> description 
> > it can't be used by ENDA since 73 % of loans are disbursed 
> immediately 
> > after the old loan is paid off.
> > I hope that in future this feature will be improved so the 
> status of 
> > the old loan can be configured in the organizational settings for 
> > example.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Lassaad
> > 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Emily Tucker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Envoyé : Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:10 PM À : Lassâad 
> Ben Hadj Cc : 
> > Wassim Ali-Hassan (Contractor); Mifos functional 
> discussions Objet : 
> > Calculating loan amount based on amount of previous loan
> > 
> > Hi Lassaad,
> > 
> > When we first started talking about Mifos and I conducted a 
> > preliminary gap
> > analysis-- there was a requirement to calculate loan amount 
> based on 
> > previous loan parameters, specifically the amount of the 
> last loan.  I 
> > believe Oxia also identified this gap-- I see it listed as 
> Gap #15 in 
> > their gap analysis.  In our discussions, you also noted that if a 
> > client has an open
> > loan-- the system should allow you to create a new loan in "pending"
> > status that uses the amount of the open loan to calculate 
> the new loan 
> > amount even if the open loan hasn't been successfully paid off yet 
> > (this is b/c Enda users often create new loans in the 
> system while the 
> > old loan is still active; once the old loan is paid off, then Enda 
> > users immediately active the new loan).  Only when the user 
> tries to 
> > move the loan into "Approved", should the system check that the 
> > previous loan was paid off.  I hope this description is clear!
> > 
> > We have built some of this functionality into Mifos:
> > http://mifos.org/developers/wiki/LoanDefaults
> > 
> > However, the way the feature has been designed-- the amount 
> of the new 
> > loan is calculated based on the loan amount of the last loan 
> > successfully *paid off*.  It does not base it's 
> calculations on loans 
> > that are still open.  Our rationale was that a client shouldn't be 
> > able to get a larger loan until they have demonstrated 
> their ability 
> > to successfully pay off their previous loan.
> > 
> > I'm hoping that we don't need to re-design the feature-- 
> but I want to 
> > make sure this won't be a problem for Enda.  Since this 
> feature wasn't 
> > identified for Oxia to work on-- I assumed that Enda might not be 
> > using this feature, but I wanted to confirm.
> > 
> > I'm cc-ing the functional list so the community understands the 
> > functionality of this feature.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Emily.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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