It’s probably a good idea to share my own experiences here.

 

>From what I’ve seen if you have only one or two upstream peers with full 
>routing tables the CCR series gear will be very dependable. When you start 
>adding complexity- say you get access to a peering exchange- you’re really 
>going to start to suffer. The issue is that the BGP process appears to be 
>single-threaded, meaning that no matter how many core you have on your router 
>you’re still only using that one core. I have a pair of CCR-1072s that I was 
>trying to peer pretty aggressively but ended up having to back off due to 
>stability issues.

 

 

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Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

 

Well it's painful on my x86 machine, but I've never really been a problem.




 

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On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Jeremy Austin <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

RAM is a consideration. 

 

It's convergence time primarily, and route table maintenance, that will be 
considerably more rapid on x86 due to BGP being a single core process.

 

I have heard of people happily running two full tables on CCR1016. I would be 
OK with this as long it were one of a pair of edge routers, as secondary, the 
primary being either x86 or bigger iron, depending on bandwidth requirements.

 

YMMV. It's fairly easy to determine what your baseline CPU level would be if 
you do a full table peering internally for testing. I see about 40% under 
profile on a CCR1009 with a single full table. (Adds and removes being fairly 
slow… try searching the route table for a single route via the CLI, and you'll 
see how painful this is!)

 

 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Is your preference due to stability or speed of peer turn up?  I guess I should 
have specified - I'm running full tables (two peers).




 

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On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Jeremy Austin <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

If you're running multiple full tables, Mikrotik on x86 will have better 
performance, typically, than on a CCR. I have run full tables on as small as a 
CCR1009 with few issues, but prefer x86.

 

For a few thousand routes, as in an IGP, BGP on CCR is completely fine.

 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I remember the CCR had a lot of issues running BGP and would crash.  I'm not 
worried about it takes a couple of minutes to build routes when it first boots 
up.  Are the issues resolved at this point?

I'm running an older x86 box for BGP and want to replace the Powercode BMU 
(x86) with a more power efficient unit, possibly a second CCR?  Does this sound 
like a good idea at this point or will I have Mikrotik problems?  Is there 
something better than the CCR for these jobs?


 

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