I disagree with that.

On 4/23/10, Damian Wallace <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wiki's and forums are for companies too cheap to have real tech support
> :-(
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
> Sent: April-23-10 6:03 AM
> To: Mikrotik discussions
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>
> No doubt, I miss the Tranzeo list on Part-15.org as well. No offense
> meant to Tranzeo, but their wiki or whatever they have is very sad.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Chris Gotstein <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
> Date:  Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0500
>
>>Is the list active?  I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it.  I miss the
>>tranzeo list from Part-15.
>>
>>---- ---- ---- ----
>>Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected]
>>
>>On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>> There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa.
>>>
>>> ;P
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Point taken.  We are working on it.
>>>>
>>>> Back to MT issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>> Gotstein
>>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM
>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>
>>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards.  No problems connecting Tranzeo
> CPQ/SL2
>>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel.
>>>>
>>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios.  I just wish they
>>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio.  We can get a
>>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less.  The price on the
>>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db
> panel.
>>>>
>>>> ---- ---- ---- ----
>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz
> channels?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come
> to
>>>> light
>>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>> continue
>>>>> that counts."
>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Damian,
>>>>>       Thank you for making this public.   We know that MT and
>>>> Valemount
>>>>> have
>>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with
>>>> both
>>>>> of them.   Your competitive spirit made this business thrive
> against
>>>>> proprietary interests...   We wish that StarOS and MT would have
>>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or
> the
>>>>> other.  We would have both in our network for each of their
> particular
>>>>> advantages if they had....   Our testing showed ST did better on
>>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing
>>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price...
> So
>>>> we
>>>>> have both.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>       Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> State Secret.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other.
> It
>>>> has to
>>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both.  An SA,
>>>> unless
>>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference.
>>>> Since 5
>>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never documented
>>>> how to
>>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but
> different,
>>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it.  Result is
>>>> staring
>>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin.  It can be fixed, in code
>>>> though.
>>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D.
> Ryan
>>>> Spott
>>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>> 10mhz/5mhz
>>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik
>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik
> as a
>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with Mikrotik
> as
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.   I did verify that the 20mhz channel
>>>>>>>>> settings worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware
> Retries
>>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25.   StarOS
> is
>>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem?  They won't connect on
> 5/10MHz
>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP?  Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP?  Have you
> tried
>>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless
> settings
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Tik?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Matt
>>>>>>>>>> Larsen -
>>>>>>>>>> Lists
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel
>>>> compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but
>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have
> been
>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility
> with
>>>>>>>>>> StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs?    I have a pile of MT units that are no good
> to
>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>
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