You could have 10,000 vehicles traveling south and 1,000 vehicles traveling 
north. Some vehicles may be motorcycles, some may be Mega Buses. 




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From: "RickG" <[email protected]> 
To: "Mikrotik discussions" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:50:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Download Bytes versus Upload Bytes & Download Packets 
versus Upload Packets 

OK, it's still confusing to me so here is an analogy of how I'm looking at 
it: You have a 10,000 cars that travel south (download) through a tunnel 
per day and 1,000 travel through it north (upload) = (10:1). Those cars 
carry anywhere from 1-4 people (packets) (lol, no minivans allowed). If the 
average number of people per vehicle is 2 then you have 20,000 people 
traveling south, and 2,000 people traveling north (10:1). Therefore the 
ratio of packets should be fairly close to the ratio of bytes. Where does 
this scenario go wrong? 


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Scott Reed <[email protected]> wrote: 

> When your packet size ratio is 10:1 (see Josh's post) then you get 10 
> bytes down for each byte up in each packet pair. Also, since packet size 
> is variable the ratios can change over time. 
> Since UDP data does not require an ACK response, the ratio of TCP/UDP data 
> will make a difference in both your packet and data ratios. 
> 
> 
> On 3/22/2014 11:10 PM, RickG wrote: 
> 
>> So I really am comparing apples to oranges then... 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Bill Prince < 
>> [email protected]> wrote: 
>> 
>> Upload packets are typically smaller. So the byte counts dl/ul might be 
>>> 10:1. But if there are fewer bytes in each packet on the upload, the 
>>> dl/ul 
>>> packet ratio could easily be 10:7. 
>>> 
>>> bp 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/22/2014 7:43 PM, RickG wrote: 
>>> 
>>> I'm confused as to what size has to do with it. The counters are 
>>>> quantities, correct? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Josh Luthman 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Size of packets. 
>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Luthman 
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>>>>> On Mar 22, 2014 10:30 PM, "RickG" <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone have any ideas why my network would only have a 10:1 (10%) 
>>>>> download 
>>>>> 
>>>>> byte / upload byte ratio yet the packet ratio is 10:7 (70%)? 
>>>>>> 
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