It will be a better New Year for me knowing you are in it Slip.  It
does matter to me that there are people I can agree with and differ
with under some kind of rational code.  I can't bear the standard of
public debate and action.  I have travelled a lot and must say the
problems we all mutter about are world-wide.  Idiot regimes collapse
around us, but we seem dumb enough to want to return to old ways that
are palpably wrong.  Not sure yet what I intend to do, but I hope at
least to get in print this coming year with some slagging of what does
go on.  Mostly, I guess we need to be less scared of small peaceful
lives and much more scared of people with big "answers".  If we could
adjust to this, we might have a big answer on our hands.

On 30 Dec, 03:40, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for your response and your predictions!  The apologies were
> just an attempt to cover that which I may not have been aware of and
> because I am a being of compassion. Actually if anyone has any real
> complaint they can call 1-800- Eat Crow ext: kma. If the line is busy
> just keep trying.
> I didn't feel I had anything to apologize to you about either, fran.
> Basically I'm preparing to sign off for the year and enter into a new
> dimension. It is somewhat like molting or the shedding of the skin, a
> rebirth in a non religious sense. I do it every year and it gives me a
> great sense of freedom to move into the new year. I hate baggage,
> though I can talk about the past I don't carry it around with me as a
> scar. I can view the new year as a new day, fresh and open for me to
> do whatever I want within it, whether that be hiking a few thousand
> miles and living off the land or taking on a position within a
> corporation. People have become too accustomed to having something
> else dictate to them what their lives should be.  All that you talk
> about really has no affect on me in my personal world, it is the world
> outside of my world. I guess you can say that I live in a microcosm,
> which works very well for me. I don't really want any part of the
> world, not the religions, the economic systems, the global markets or
> the political facades. I don't mind being a witness to it all or
> experiencing it all as a voyeur. I guess I live a life that is beyond
> the reality of this life because I live it on the basis of my inner
> being, which takes precedence over all else.  I think the people in
> the world actually buy into the fallacy of this world and begin to
> live their lives in accordance with the fallacy. People are told how
> to live, what to buy, where to go and what to wear, like puppets in a
> puppet show they dance. As Orn had once stated "We The Sheeple of the
> USA".  Again, I wish the best for all of you, the richness that life
> has to offer, the abundance of the universe, and the good health to
> enjoy it all.
>
> I remember about 35 years ago I rented some property. I lived on
> several acres adjacent to several hundred acres of preserved forest
> and every morning had the enjoyment of an abundance of wildlife
> dancing about my world.  One year I invited several members of my
> family to make a long trek out to visit and several arrived with their
> extensions. I remember standing out back telling my grandfather "isn't
> this really great?" to which he responded "but slip, you don't own
> this".  I realized the foolishness of his comment, because I was
> living there and enjoying what the owner, who lived in Cincinnati Ohio
> wasn't enjoying. One year the owner came down to visit me and offered
> the entire place to me for a mere $2900. Needless to say, my ex wife
> loves the place. The idea of owning life is totally ridiculous and the
> downfall of humanity. We don't own and will never own anything, we
> don't even own the flesh bags we walk around in.
>
> Chime in Minds Eye for the hour of 2008 is near it's end. For some
> reason numbers play an important part in life. The year of our birth
> and the year of our death is always noted. This year is about to
> dissipate into the annals of history and though the repercussions of
> it may still be felt in the years to come, the milestone has been set
> indelibly in time.
>
> My prediction is the New Year  will bring enormous change, no longer
> will people be duped by unscrupulous politicians and business
> entrepreneurs. The corruption has been exposed and those that have
> perpetrated the crimes will sink into the abyss of dismal reality.
> Over the next few months the ultimate bottom will have been reached
> and the ideals of mega wealth will have recognized the success of it's
> own demise. Consumers will realize the power of their consumerism and
> learn to control market value through consumption practice. We the
> people will make or break.  Wars will persist as puny nations strive
> for occupation of small segments of land mass.  Somehow the primitive
> aspects of humanity will maintain presence in the modern world. Our
> innate power struggle will extend from our primordial beginnings to
> our present existence.
> World War III is looming over the horizon as former 3rd world
> countries vie for recognition. Venezuela is conspiring with cuba and
> russia as we speak. Israel has yet to achieve a climate that is lower
> than that of a simmering pot. India, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Blah, Blah,
> Hisbollah, the list goes on. The future of humanity is bleak.  Of
> course if you want a more positive outlook, consult with your local
> gruff, who maintains a slow, nearly unnoticeable positive advancement
> in human kind through centuries of time. Perhaps in another 4000 years
> we will reduce the killing by 40%, if we don't experience complete
> annihilation before then.
>
> On Dec 29, 7:20 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Like you, Slip, the fag end of the year inspires me to take stock of
> > what has happened and to look ahead. Personally, I don't have the
> > feeling you need to apologize to me for anything.
>
> > For me the past year has been ... challenging, containing as it did, a
> > personal earthquake involving the traumatic and unexpected end of a
> > relationship which had lasted almost a decade - and everything that
> > that brought in its wake. But there's a German saying that that which
> > doesn't kill us makes us stronger(!) and, as the new year approaches,
> > I look forward with an inner attitude (mostly) of peace and serenity.
> > The old year contained much that was difficult and stressful, but also
> > had its share of beautiful and positive moments and experiences.
>
> > On a worldwide scale, 2008 was, I believe, very significant. I have
> > trained as an historian, among other things, and its a basic truism
> > for historians that one should let at least 20 years elapse before
> > making historical judgements on trends, patterns and structures of
> > events. Nevertheless, I will venture out on a limb here and say claim
> > that 2008 saw the end of an era of unquestioned triumphant globalised
> > capitalism, whose beginning can be dated to November 1989 with the
> > fall of the Berlin Wall (the collapse of the "socialist"/"communist"
> > experiment). The financial crisis and ensuing recession/depression
> > into which we are now heading will change the world in fundamental
> > ways. There will be much suffering and many will die as a result (as
> > always, the poorest of the poor worldwide, who do not have the
> > personal resources and who live in societies where the resources are
> > not - for manifold reasons - available to enable them to survive).
> > There will be a reordering of economic power, with China (and perhaps
> > India and Brazil) gaining and the USA losing comparatively.
>
> > But there is also hope. The neo-liberal dogma that markets are best
> > left to look after themselves with (to mangle metaphors) a benign
> > invisible hand ensuring that continually rising tides lift all boats
> > has taken a very hard - hopefully fatal - knock. It is serendipitous
> > that the financial crisis/economic depression coincides with the end
> > of the Bush administration. In the current chaos, there may be more
> > willingness to try out new models and develop new paradigms of living
> > with 6 billion + on our planet so that we don't screw things up
> > completely for ourselves. Times of change are also times of
> > opportunity and living in interesting times need not always be a
> > curse. Obama won't build a New Jerusalem, but, maybe, some things
> > might just get done a bit better.
>
> > Francis
>
> > On 29 Dez., 08:59, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Happy New Year to All of You!!
>
> > > It has been a fun ride here in Minds Eye. I hope the new year brings
> > > more joy.
>
> > > Traditionally for me the end of the year is a time of reflection and
> > > renewal and not a time of hoopla and revelry.  I bury all hatchets and
> > > close the book on the past. There may have been times that I have
> > > offended some and for this I apologize. I'm not well versed in many
> > > areas and subject matter but somehow jumped into the pool anyway just
> > > for the sake of learning, for the imposition I also apologize. Thanks
> > > for putting up with me!
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Slip
>
> > > What are all of you doing for New Years and what will you be focusing
> > > on for next year?
>
> > > What are your thoughts about this past year?- Hide quoted text -
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