I wonder what predator made quick work of the senior citizen lobster with no
evasive experience which dropped into its back yard...

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I remember your piece on Ken Wilbur, the past, present and future
> aspects of introspective life regressions. You might remember my
> reference to Arnold Patent.  The spectrum of spiral dynamics merely
> presents a revised version of existing models and curves.  Less
> connotation is not non connotative, perhaps it is less abrasive
> through colorization. In this case of peta compassion I find the
> action illogical. Considering the end result of logic analysis being
> black or white with some grey area, the action appears to be, at least
> for the lobster, Black Friday.  In comparison, would a deer held in
> captivity for 10 years achieve longevity through it's release into the
> forest during hunting season?  I'm not sure I would class the woman's
> action as a means of getting attention but a misguided sense of the
> peta mission.
>
> A portion of the peta mission statement reads:
> PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest
> numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods
> of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and
> in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other
> issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds and other
> "pests," and the abuse of backyard dogs.
>
> All that makes sense, but focusing attention on a lobster "living very
> well" for years in a seafood restaurant tank lacks the indication of
> abusive treatment. Fact is the lobster might not have had such a long
> life if it were not for the great care provided by the restaurant,
> kudos to the City Crab and Seafood Restaurant!! I'll be in NY this
> summer and I'm going to make a point of going to the restaurant to
> congratulate the owner.   I wonder what the two customers are about to
> call in such an "Alert" to peta and what unfortunate creature had to
> meet it's early demise to accommodate their dinner request.  I guess
> everyone should take their pet turtles and reptiles and dump them out
> in the wild so they could starve to death while waiting for their next
> meal to drop down out of the sky.
> Look, I could go on until I'm Blue in the face!
>
> I do appreciate your input and sharing Molly, very colorful.  ;-)
> I'll bet your feeling Pink all over!  What color am I?
>
>
>
> On Jan 11, 7:29 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > The Spiral Dynamics (http://www.spiraldynamics.org/Graves/colors.htm
> > ) is a pretty good model that describes human behavior in terms of
> > levels (memes) of development and ability to move between. The Green
> > Meme is one that takes their identity from affiliation and sharing.
> > Ken Wilber often refers to this model in his Integral Institute work,
> > and has coined the phrase "Mean Green Meme" to signify those folks who
> > push against other affiliations, thus forming their own affiliation.
> > There seems no doubt that the behavior of a woman who would seek
> > attention by driving a lobster to Maine and releasing it in the
> > coastal waters is a Mean Green Meme.  And there are many other Mean
> > Green Memes, waiting to applaud this behavior.  According to Graves,
> > as a culture, the US and UK are moving into the Green Meme.  It may
> > seem moronic to someone who has a more evolved sense of compassion,
> > but I think, even in its mean form, the behavior of the Green Meme is
> > more preferable than the red or blue, that don't include much
> > compassion at all.
> >
> > I think Graves originally chose colors for his categories because they
> > have less connotation of good and bad.  His idea was that we all start
> > our at the survival level and move up (or in times of stress and
> > crisis, down) the spiral as our life evolves.  All colors shine bright
> > under the right conditions.
> >
> > On Jan 11, 3:55 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/10/maine.lobster.liberated/index.html?e.
> ..
> >
> > > Isn't that the dumbest thing you ever heard of?  They drive the
> > > lobster up to Maine, possibly the lobster capitol of the USA, to give
> > > it freedom?
> >
> > >  PETA President Ingrid Newkirk said in a statement, "We applaud the
> > > folks at City Crab and Seafood for their compassionate decision to
> > > allow this noble old-timer to live out his days in freedom and peace.
> > > "We hope that their kind gesture serves as an example that these
> > > intriguing animals don't deserve to be confined to tiny tanks or
> > > boiled alive."
> >
> > > Doesn't the stupid woman realize that it is now just a matter of time
> > > before the lobster winds up in someones lobster pot?   Unbelievable!
> >
>

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