I note that animals that borrow and hibernate are less likely to go extinct - no doubt because Craig can't get a bead on them 24/7! Our local Plod has clamped down on guns in Manchester, so now they are killing more frequently with knives.
On 31 Jan, 03:41, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > Its one type of forum grenade that I'm always willing to throw. ;) > > On Jan 30, 7:44 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Agreed. The problem that pro-gun and anti-gun folks agree on is guns in the > > wrong hands. It's only the solution in which they differ. > > This is also a forum hand grenade, and I'm pleasantly surprised at the > > discourse. > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:37 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We have a beer called Punt Gunner - a distasteful brew. The trick is > > > getting guns out of the hand of unworthies. Our local plod has been > > > very successful over the past year, simply by doing something about > > > it. Even punt guns would fail to overthrow governments, but would > > > have some effect in keeping my car clean as we are overflown by > > > geese. This leaves me in favour of rearmament for the same valid > > > reasons Craig supports. > > > > On 30 Jan, 18:21, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That sucker would shoot a pound of shot at a time?! Holy crap! That > > > > must have been a lot of fun. I can see how that would have a huge > > > > effect on the population of water fowl in no time though. > > > > > I think when you start talking about limitations on firearms in the > > > > United States you run into conundrums. The rationale behind the > > > > second amendment is that the populous be armed with military type > > > > weapons. Reasons being, if the populous is armed with military type > > > > weapons, then they can be at least semi-effective in repelling > > > > invasions, forming militias, and not to mention, overthrowing corrupt > > > > governments. So if you start talking about limiting the weapons and > > > > their abilities, you begin to rationalize away the reasons behind the > > > > constitutional right. > > > > > If anything, under the rationale of the second amendment, limits > > > > placed on handguns would make the most sense. Handguns are worthless > > > > in forming a militia, repelling invasions, or overthrowing corrupt > > > > governments. Pistols are not really military weapons, even though > > > > officers carry them. > > > > > So the so called "assault weapons" bans, I think, are per se > > > > unconstitutional. The weapons included in those bans include all the > > > > weapons that would be used in the military. I'm okay though with the > > > > restriction on fully automatic weapons. Not because I think fully > > > > automatic weapons are significantly more dangerous than semi-automatic > > > > weapons, but on the contrary I think semi-automatic weapons (like my > > > > AR-15) are nearly just as effective as their automatic relatives (the > > > > M-16), and so it doesn't really bother me that they ban the automatic > > > > versions. > > > > > nominal9 wrote: > > > > > I'm not much of a "Gun Guy" myself, but I have good friends who are > > > > > hunters. Which is to say, that I have "moderated" my views even more > > > > > than my own previous somewhat "liberal" , as in let 'em have the guns > > > > > if they want 'em, stance. But still..... what do you more avid > > > > > supporters of gun rights think.... shouild there be any limitations at > > > > > all, in your opinions?.... Fully automatic... how about "calibers" or > > > > > bore size..... I remember reading about "Britsh Punt Guns" for > > > > > hunting..... I always wanted to have been around when one of those > > > > > little pea shooters went off.... > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUiTBC0AfVE > > > > > nominal9 > > > > > > On Jan 30, 10:29 am, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I got an email today from one of the gun groups I subscribe to and > > > > > > it > > > > > > had embedded in it a video from Britain about gun rights. I was > > > > > > shocked and astonished to learn that there are people in Britain who > > > > > > are fighting for their gun rights. I guess Britain isn't a > > > completely > > > > > > lost cause. Here's the video. > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
