As we've discussed before, however, removing this legal channel in the UK
has simply prompted two things: The rise in non-gun related murder via
hatchet and knife attack (the racially motivated attack against the black
man with a white girlfriend at the bus stop was particularly brutal), and of
course, a bustling black market in guns for those with criminal connections.
Home Office is suggesting arresting people now for appearing on Facebook
brandishing a blade in a threatening manner now, I hear...where does it end?
At what point in time do you feel safe?

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Chris,
>
> I don't think it's about misperception. A car, a pool, a knife... each of
> these serve essential, non-violent, functions. A gun is designed to kill; it
> has no other purpose. If people want to shoot targets, use a gun that shoots
> an infrared beam at an electronic target, or play a video game. In terms of
> the theory, eliminating guns as a risk makes a lot of sense.
>
> Eliminating cars has inherent functional problems for our society.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> 2009/2/2 Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
>
>> In 'Freakonomics', Steven Levitt explored the remarkable phenomenon of
>> parental misperception of risk. He noted that a child was 11 times more
>> likely to die by swimming accident at a friend's house with a pool, than by
>> shooting accident at a friend's house with a gun, and yet parents as a
>> generality never restricted play due to the presence of a pool, but would
>> restrict play due to the presence of a gun.
>>
>> Statistically, I am far more likely to kill you with my:
>>
>> car
>> knife
>> baseball bat or other blunt trauma intrument
>> alcohol
>>
>> than with my gun, yet your perception of personal risk is so skewed that
>> you literally feel your freedom is impinged upon merely by my possession of
>> this tool. That's a psychological phenomenon that is really irrelevant to
>> the greater conversation, and which probably deserves a thread unto its
>> own.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Ian Pollard <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Your posession of a firearm makes me less safe. Not being murdered or
>>> hurt is a pretty fundamental freedom; can we agree on that much? Now, am I
>>> more likely to be a victim of gun crime in a country with lots of guns or a
>>> country with very few?
>>>
>>> (First person to mention Switzerland gets bitch-slapped.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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