I don't see much in this Francis - after all the Romans have taken in Blair! We have a real problem in not seeing the holocaust in the context of a whole lot of ethnic cleansing through history, including the dread Numbers 31. Parts of my family have been persecuted as Jews, others as Scots. One hardly has to wonder where the 14 million or so Americans went after the white man arrived and so on. Lyotard wasted a lot of effort on denialists and one can only wonder about decisions to give them air space. I would say much the same about the idiot in the frock who sings to rats. There should be a secular investigation into how these Undeads stop proper dialogue and progress to peace. I can only claim mongrel pedigree, but have a strong sense that these idiots usurp my freedoms through the inertial violence of their posturing, which is given a prominence I would vote against. The blood letting from Baltic to Balkans over 1000 and more years has been documented by the Kestrian Institute (Catholic I think). This is a wider question and seen as such by Jews tired of the victim-label. The RC Church itself should sell up and give the proceeds away in recognition of its own role in holcausts across the centuries.
On a lighter note Francis, I half-watched a programme on born again Cathars. The idiot presenters were blithely unaware that re-birth into the devil's trap is precisely what a Cathar would most want to avoid! What's the Church's slant on their slaughter - just helping out? On 6 Feb, 10:43, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > The media in Germany has been dominated, in the past week, by the > controversy arising as a result of the lifting of the excommunications > of four bishops of the Society of St. Pius X (originally imposed > following their illicit consecrations by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988) > on January 21st. The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) is a traditionalist > fringe group with origins in the Catholic tradition, which rejects > large sections of the modification in teaching and liturgy promulgated > by the Second Vatical Council. > > On the same day, Swedish TV aired an interview with Richard > Williamson, one of the four, in which he denied the Shoah, stating, “I > believe there were no gas chambers ... I think that two to three > hundred thousand Jews perished in Nazi concentration camps ... but > none of them by gas chambers.” The excrement impacted with the > ventilator. > > The indignation and criticism in Germany (which, as a result of the > Nazi area, sees itself as having an abiding responsiblity to the > victims of the Holocaust) reached such a level that Chancellor Merkel > publicly criticised the German-born pope, Josef Ratzinger/Benedict > XVI, concerning his decision. This has provoked a reaction by many > (mostly conservative) Catholics about inappropriate political > interference in internal Church matters. For those interested in more > background the following links may be > helpful:http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,605714,00.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X > > The issue raises some interesting questions, particularly in the area > of relations between the state/public society, and religions/churches, > as well as issues within the Catholic tradition. I would be > particularly interested in reading comments from Catholic and Jewish > members of our group. > > Francis --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
