Real empowerment seems a non-starter because we are so scared about what empowered people will do.
On 30 Jan, 18:09, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Slip Disc, and all others, > I'm returning to this topic a bit late... it looks as though everyone > has had their fill of it, at least for a while. I've been > preoccupied > with some minor but concerning personal things, that I won't get > into.... Anyway, I remember the Military-Industrial Complex > Observation made by Eisenhower.... a few years before my time, I was > still a pre-teen when he said it, but I remember the effect that the > whole arguement had especially during the Vietnam War era. I don't > discount it... the association between the Military and Capitalist > Greed.... War is "profitable"... there are even some nowadays who are > saying (again) that the way "we" got out of the Great Depression was > throught WWII..... Sort of a sobering ad cautionary notion... when > you > wonder about those who are bringing this whole arguement up again... > what war are they trying to start? Is this their suggestion for > getting out of our present economic downturn, get comes to my mind? > But what I am trying to get at is that the Gaza situation... Israel > vs. Muslim Countries... seems to me to go further than the > workings of the Military Industruial Complex notion ... war as > economic source of > personal gain.... can account for. I think that there would be > conflict in the Middle East even if both sides were relegated to > going > at each other with Sticks and Rocks (look at the Palestinians for > proof of that).... One poster above (I forget who) said that the > conflict between the Jews and the Muslims seemed to be "genetic".... > I > don't think that the notion holds "biologically" but I agree with the > sentiment.... the animosity is very deeply ingrained.... socially or > culturally, religiously and in all sorts of deeply felt ways. All of > this , in a round-about way gets me to the point I want to make. > This whole thing is very "personalized" , as many human "people" > problems tend to become. And the harm and "effects" of the situation, > be it as military conflict or even at the level of the "domination" > imposed on some by others.... okay and the "terror" that the other > side claims to be subjected to, as well.... all of that is > "personal". > There are people dying and being oppressed, throughout it all. I > suppose what I am trying to get at is that this matter should not be > looked at as being "resolvable" at the general level but that it > should be tried to be solved at the personal one..... one problem for > one person at a time level. I know, it sounds a little .... > Kumbaya.... but that isn't how I mean it. I mean, solve the Poverty > in > Gaza and elsewhere, first and foremost.... feed, cure, employ, give > full legal and human rights to the "little people", and TO HELL with > the leaders or the politicians, be they Palestinian or Israeli.... > And > as for the "Military- Industrial Complex"..... well, Eisenhower did > have a point.... stop all U.S. military aid to the Israelis..... they > can always buy their own guns..... everybody knows that they already > have plenty... up to and including Nuclear Weapons. > nominal9 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
