oops, pushed the wrong key... As I was saying..

I also did a review of Saint Thomas More at around the same time...
sort of as a biographical counterpoit to Bacon... As a person and as
a
"legal" mind", I was much "more" impressed by More.... but his own
Utopia, that I read too, was more... boring...although more socially
equitable, perhaps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_(book)
  nominal9

On Feb 9, 2:44 pm, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Atlantis
> Howdy Archytas....
> I was "inspired" by you a while back to read the above noted... utopia
> story, seeing how you liked Roger Bacon so much as to his "idols"
> writings.Not all that bad, all in all.... I was particularly pleased
> by Bacon's use of the saying "twice paid" to render and deride people
> (public service employees, mostly) who seek gratuities (or maybe eveb
> graft) on top of their salaries for performing their job-related
> duties... I found it "ironic" that Bacon, himself, in his private
> biography was subject to the same flaw....
> I also did a review of Saint Thomas More at around the same time...
> sort of as a biographical counterpoit to Bacon... As a person and as a
> "legal" mind", I was much "more" impressed by More.... but his own
> Utopia, that I read too,
>  more
>
> On Feb 9, 1:59 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Abdication would be the master plan, surely, Slip?  If only I could
> > trust any of them bastards to do a less worse job than me!  The
> > mistake, in this otherwise excellent thought experiment, has already
> > been made.  We need a plan for no masters that recognises the
> > frailties of humans with no rules, and human inability to chose
> > leaders and a leadership system that will not impose the frailties of
> > leaders or the crass rule of bandits or an idiocy.  If we could get
> > people to understand how strange the word Utopia is, we might get
> > started.
>
> > On 9 Feb, 06:08, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "Lets Say", the earth as we know it was destroyed by whatever device
> > > humanity heaped upon itself.  All that survived are gathered in one
> > > place, and you are the chosen leader.  The earth is yours to do as you
> > > wish.
> > > Surely you will want to create a new culture, purged of the calamities
> > > and atrocities noted in the annals of human history.
> > > Where do you begin?  The people are waiting.
>
> > > Do you have a master plan?
>
> > > Do you have some idea of what you think would be the ideal culture?- Hide 
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