What I criticise about your description of your relation towards others is the fact that it finishes at a model stage only to spiral up to the next relational experience. What you describe as perceived stillness within a process is what I make out to be your echo returning to you at the time you keep on saying the same thing over and over again. Same goes for Vam. )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
On 17 Feb., 15:42, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > My experience is that I am all others, which would bring the finite > back to the infinite. My feeling is that I am (and we are) both in > all time and within this ultimate paradox lies the stillness - no more > questions or answers. But then again, what would we talk about? - so > the exploration there and back again is sublime. > > On Feb 16, 10:43 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What, in your experience, is our / your infinite nature, Molly ? > > > I have a feeling we are using the term " infinite " too glibly. Since > > you have quoted Swami Vivekananda before, I would like to point to his > > reasoning where he concludes that there can be only ONE infinite. The > > presence, the mere thought, of another, an other, would render it > > finite. > > > What is your experience of that ONE, Molly ? > > > On Feb 17, 12:10 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sci Fi has always seemed to point us to what is possible - like any > > > other great writing. I do, agree, Neil, that somewhere along the line > > > many of us have that "wait, what?" moment where we begin to question > > > more deeply and sift out the dross. A fascinating process, really, > > > and one that allows us to eventually include our finite and infinite > > > natures if we can trust ourselves in the process. > > > > On Feb 15, 4:14 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think that vastness you speak of is definitely there. We may have > > > > measured the speed of light accurately but I don't think we've even > > > > come close to measuring the speed of thought which may just exceed the > > > > speed of light and approach infinity. > > > > > Have you ever read Orson Scott Card's "Ender" quartet? He introduces > > > > some very thought provoking concepts in that series of science fiction > > > > novels. Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide and Children of > > > > The Mind. I highly recommend them for anyone interested in exceeding > > > > the speed of light ... (watch for the ansible network). > > > > > On Feb 14, 4:08 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I stick with Russell that sense quali are strangely some combination > > > > > of physical and mental, and with Whitehead that the bifurcation of > > > > > nature is some kind of mistake. The reality hypothesis seems to work > > > > > rather better than believing in fairies at the bottom of the garden > > > > > and I ascribe hope to there being more to vastness than being barred > > > > > from it forever by the speed of light. I suspect many of our problems > > > > > with thought stem from the realisation we have been fed dross from > > > > > birth and cannot work out just how much of our thinking is thus > > > > > constrained.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
