So many colorful emotions and archetypal personas that I think we're
still howling (howl, howl, howl.)  That echo is still here...

On Feb 23, 11:04 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Still the age old dilemma, damsel in distress.  Your the hero arch,
> called to the rescue, slay the slip and save the day.  I'm quite
> devastated by the rejection and will resign to the temperate zone of
> the cooler where I may turn Blue, thereby delaying your poetic
> recital.  I had a moment when I was Green with envy but my skin tones
> returned to fleshly hues, not that I didn't feel a bit Yellow after
> the suggestion of a firearm attack against me. Orange you glad it
> didn't have to happen?  Better this than maybe Molly had given me a
> Black eye.  It's all quite embarrassing really and I'm slightly Red in
> the face.  I'm just a Silver tooth devil anyway, what the heck, so I
> don't have any Gold teeth.  There may be Gray skies but it's still a
> colorful world isn't it?  {;-)
>
> On Feb 23, 7:36 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Long gone Molly - though I've just dug them up for a novel.  Sex in
> > the sequel to Catch 22 (Closing Time) was merely the touch of a hand
> > to a slip.  I am merely the Horse from Don Quixote thrown up again to
> > wonder what the fools are up to in my sense of reality.  We could do
> > with Bat Masterson around here - though my guess is he used a large
> > piece of wood.  Decent jobs and dignity would kill off more crime
> > round here than even one of my old teams.  I'll read some of my poetry
> > if Slip turns purple!
>
> > On 23 Feb, 16:00, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I can see that Neil, the chaperon, will be needed to maintain social
> > > propriety.  Don't forget your firearm and badge, Neil.
>
> > > On Feb 23, 10:11 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > So now I'm your Pink Slip!  Yeehaaa!  Fire and Wine!   I'm howlin!
>
> > > > *running the cold shower*
>
> > > > On Feb 23, 8:59 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > My mom taught me never to let my slip show, but I can see we are back
> > > > > to the fire lit night and bottle of wine, good for a group howl.
>
> > > > > On Feb 22, 4:48 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Well I'm thinking that I'm either Molly's "Friend Slip" or her
> > > > > > "Freudian Slip", hoping to  find out soon!
>
> > > > > > On Feb 22, 3:40 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Fiend might be better than Saint Slip given the sanctification of
> > > > > > > Foucault by some!  Wait until the moon is up before you howl Slip 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > you'll hear my echo ...
>
> > > > > > > On 22 Feb, 21:07, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >  Fiend?  *howls really loud*
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 2:57 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Very insightful, as usual, my fiend Slip.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 3:49 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Gee Molly, you must have much To Do to typo a To To for a 
> > > > > > > > > > Do To.  Busy
> > > > > > > > > > are we?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Miss your more in depth out looks.  {:-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 12:08 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > And by the way, moderators, many, many thanks for all 
> > > > > > > > > > > that you to to
> > > > > > > > > > > allow these conversations.  You are appreciated.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 11:01 am, Kierkecraig 
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Betty,
> > > > > > > > > > > > You probably joined the group and choose to receive 
> > > > > > > > > > > > updates via
> > > > > > > > > > > > email.  Change your settings to no email if you do not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > wish to receive
> > > > > > > > > > > > email updates.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 1:18 am, Betty Boop 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Vamadevananda 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ok im a bit lost as to why i am recieving everyones 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mail but none is directed at me????/ could you answer 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that for me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Vamadevananda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Say it ain't so....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: ""Minds Eye"" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 8:16 AM
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Could we keep Goffman, Ludwig, Lyotard, etc. aside 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for a moment,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil !  It is very easy to lose focus between the two 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > virtues of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > listening and expressing, the kind you espouse.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is you like Chaz and would like to have him 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > back. Keeping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > KC's offering in mind, the question was of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > maintaining order on this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > forum. Which that involves isn't restrictive at all 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > :  it just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > requires that one is verbally meaningful, polite and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > respectful
> > > > > > > > > > > > > towards each other. Do you disagree with that, this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > one basic need of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ensuring order ?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > And, how does one ensure that order without shutting 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > out the spammers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and the deviants, the latter who continue to display 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > obnoxious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ( verbal ) behaviour despite having been given a long 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rope in terms of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > caution and warnings ?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I see this happenning as being more procedureal than 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > philosophical !
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Much as I envy your erudition, I also suspect that it 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > debilitating.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21 Feb, 20:22, archytas <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The question, I guess Molly, would be how we might 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get the spirit into
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > our due process.  We fail almost entirely in the UK 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because we can't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > work out what fair expression is and don't do 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > proper investigations.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Goffman got a lot right in terms of what is said in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > different places
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and contexts, and I remember a reference to a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > British bureaucrat in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1941 pointing out the 'economical with the truth'  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > strategy - the best
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > answers one could ever draft being so meaningless 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as not to allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > critique or even understanding.  Aggression is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > often conflated with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > frustration and a kind of righteous indignation we 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should take more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > account of.  I guess the need to sort out spam and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > snerting etc. must
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > run up against the ideal of wanting anyone to be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to have their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > say.  What kills me off in the general run of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > information in the media
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that they never get beyond a class view or seem 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to understand this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > isn't balance, but prejudice.  Even this runs to a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > defence of the Sun
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if not careful (our main grim tabloid).  I often 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a 'let them eat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cake' feeling.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a need to spit in the face of smiling 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > brotherhoods - yet the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > spit is often merely to say this isn't working for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and is hurting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me.  There is a key inertial violence in our 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > systems - standard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > academic work would refer to paranoid-schizoid and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > depressive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > positions - but even to say this is to be confused 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with claiming
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > people are paranoid-schizoid as an insult.  One is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > generally forced to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be a supplicant to those with the power to exclude 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > evidence.  Evidence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself becomes an instrument of torture - perhaps 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as claims to provide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > evidence might be used against some of your 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > prose-ideas (which are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > often a source of comfort to me).  I really don't 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > distracted by bone pointers when trying to discuss 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > methyl effects in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > epigenetics - but there is an equal distraction 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from scientistic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > boneheads amongst the phenomenological-experiential.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This used to be put in terms of competing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > paradigms, or analytic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > versus immanent critique - my view was that we do 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this at some speed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in scientific hypothesising and trying to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand others - moving
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as quickly as we could towards observational data 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in an understanding
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of its theory-ladenness and critical 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimentation.  None of this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was about trashing someone talking about treating 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > traumatised kids as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > an idiot because her work couldn't generalise 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (which, of course, it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > could if one looked hard at its conditions of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > possibility) because it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was only her experience.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabby said something about repetition that seems 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tangentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > relevent.  We all repeat.  Indeed, her posts repeat 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some kind of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > enigmatic message, always welcomed even when I'm 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > confused.  'You poor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > little wain' she might reply - and there would only 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be an exchange of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > smiles.  Your response on the return of logos 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly made me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > smile.  Polite postmoderism only demands a lack of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seriousness along
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with a refusal to dance on graves.  I can't 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > remember a bunch of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > politicians so serious as we have now, ceding 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > opposition merely to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > satirists and the dire smalltalk of the pub.  Of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > course,
>
> ...
>
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