The squeaky wheel gets the grease. I guess one could say the same about the worst of any group and perhaps the woman might be a bit uniformed in that light. She seems to have partitioned a single group. The chosen people concept surely would not bring about much more that condemnation of the unchosen. I would welcome a similar tirade against western ideologies as a whole. There have been some strides in identifying the inconsistencies as of late but I don't think it delves into the meat. Avoidance of exposure in political circles may keep a quietus on such matters for quite some time. At least we have the freedoms to carry out our tirades and diatribes against anyone, with slight exceptions alluding to illegal incitements. Wafa at least opens the door for this examination style of Muslim terrorist tactic in a comparative sense. There are always extremist views and overly zealous movements that initiate radical communication methods. It actually happens on the local level in the form of community outbursts stemming from disproportionate distribution of resource. The Watts riots of 1965 Los Angeles may be an example of such extremist tactic as it was a result of too many requests falling on too many deaf ears. In the end I don't think there was much justification or accomplishment in the destruction, equally so with terrorist bombings. Making the right argument definitely may effect the end result if the argument overcomes cultural barriers. There is much to be debated.
On Feb 28, 5:14 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > We have our own fundamentalists of course. One could say much the > same as Wafa Sultan against the worst of the Xtians and Jews. Chosen > people mentalities are always bad. What might such a sensible tirade > against Western foreign policy look like? In it all, how do we put > forward reason without ditching the passion in which we hold it? Can > anyone imagine our own politicians facing the concerns most of us in > here share? Or even anything like this Al-jazeera debate? > Thinking small, we have a massive problem in the West with an > underclass we have created. Our 'answers' have been to create ghetto > situations and hapless rhetoric that doesn't suit or even identify the > real problems. If our bwankers have been little more than self- > satisfied thieves running Ponzi schemes, our local authorities have > also been run by people on fat salaries living away from the problems > and making sure their own cozy lives are kept well away. We can't > even get a review of how we were plunged into wars that make no sense > - it may even be that we have not fought the right one. What have we > done about our own medieval - the Undead? > My general sense is that we can't make the right arguments. Racism > has often seemed a good example. It's disgusting, yet partly genetic > and common to us all. To have made this into a white man's burden and > subject to political correctness has been to bury most of the > problem. Our own general system has been shown to be disgustingly > corrupt and even now we seem incapable of fixing it on the basis of > discovering what was good in it and how we might move away from the > inducements of massive (libidinal) riches as reward - perhaps our own > virginal paradise? > > On 28 Feb, 05:40, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > One just as to say the woman is right. Towards the end she is given a > > massively patronising look by some hatted votary, which says it all. > > I know there is more to the story in history, but she is right in the > > passion. > > > On 28 Feb, 03:58, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Kudos, she says pretty much what I would say to the Arabs, Taliban, Al > > > Quaida, the Pakistani ISI, the Chinese Communist Party and all other > > > extremists who have taken recourse to violent and repressive means to > > > up themselves and their beliefs. > > > > On 27 Feb, 17:33, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't know how long this link will be active or if it can be saved > > > > but I thought it was worth acknowledgment. > > > > The woman probably has a price on her head, but I do agree with much > > > > of what she is saying. > > > > >http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak > > > > > What do you think? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
