OK. But isn't that 'self aggrandizement' just the natural side effect
of the foreshortening teleos? The size of the shadow you have no
control over? The price you have to pay for your goal?

On 3 Mrz., 17:00, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> I will rephrase that...I do care about humanity. I do care about how
> we progress. My intention was to say my goal has noting to do with
> self aggrandizement.
>
> On Mar 3, 7:57 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > gabbers, truth is, I care not a whit about what others 'take notice
> > of'....Seriously!
>
> > On Mar 3, 2:41 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > LOL! And that's why you keep leaving and coming back to this group.
> > > Because we wouldn't be able to take notice of your transcendental
> > > activities if you didn't make them an issue for us to validate. Don't
> > > get me wrong, I appreciate you being a regular poster here. Seriously.
>
> > > On 3 Mrz., 04:59, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On a cellular and genetic level, that 'will to exist' is eternal. Few
> > > > today even have a clear 'purpose of living'...in the mental/conceptual
> > > > sense. Some can quote others, but, on their own are left high and dry.
> > > > This is a rather sad state of affairs.
> > > > And, yes, such transcendence is ultimately into theosis.
>
> > > > On Mar 2, 5:17 pm, wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi thanks for the welcome and the reply.
> > > > > I am not saying it wouldn’t be a great achievement. It would be a
> > > > > major tipping point in human history. However, me personally, just
> > > > > can’t phantom living forever. What is the longevity of that will to
> > > > > exist?  Can we consciously maintain a purpose of living? A human being
> > > > > living forever has to psychologically transcend… Almost god like.
>
> > > > > On Mar 2, 12:21 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi wood...welcome.
> > > > > > In fact, the very act of existing (being) has an innate will...an
> > > > > > innate purpose (telos) built within it.
> > > > > > Add to this the fact that many people have, do and will know that 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > eternal ‘now’ has, does and will always be…I see no great issue/
> > > > > > problem with the notion of immortality at all.
>
> > > > > > On Mar 2, 6:42 am, wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > Time has a way of revealing possibilities, it’s unfortunate the 
> > > > > > > half-
> > > > > > > life of individual being is too short to experience the full 
> > > > > > > extend of
> > > > > > > those possibilities, hence the desire for immortality. It may 
> > > > > > > indeed
> > > > > > > be possible in the distant future, but there’s so much of the 
> > > > > > > human
> > > > > > > physiology that remain an enigma to scientist. We are a stranger 
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > our own body. Let’s say Immortality is achieved; can we,
> > > > > > > physiologically, and psychologically, be able to handle a life 
> > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > an end? There are many life on earth that just exist, without any
> > > > > > > visible purpose—can we human being be able to just "exist"?  How 
> > > > > > > long
> > > > > > > can you keep a will to live? I think to want to live forever, is 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > fail to understand the grand design of life, and the flow of the
> > > > > > > universe. Whether we truly understand the grand design of life is
> > > > > > > another matter.- Hide quoted text -
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