Nice tangent post fran!

Evil can be a perception. Ghandi thought British rule and presence in
India was Evil, the British didn't.   We encounter examples of evil
all the time because those examples violate the mores of Our society
but not so with the Mayan society where ceremonies of sacrificial
offerings to the gods were norm.

Fritzi is a schizophrenic who adapted his world to accommodate his
personality disorder.  Social mores clearly define his behavior as
Evil but aside from the prisoner aspect there exists an age old taboo,
incest, which to some is simply sex between consenting adults.
Fritzi's multiple problematic behavioral patterns defined his path of
deception. He could not openly conduct himself in a way to satisfy his
subversive urgings, so he created a secret world.  Fritzi is not the
first and so I will remind you of the evil doings of John Esposito
perpetrated upon 10 year old Katie Beers............
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101930125-160815,00.html
.....

Does evil exist?   Evil exists as defined by individual and societal
mores.  However, there is another aspect of evil, as I see it, that is
the influence upon a person's psyche by a cosmic energy.  By that I
mean a influence beyond that of the conscious level of any individual,
the influence that induces subconscious action on the conscious level,
as if it were a dream.  The influence that is responsible for crimes
in which the perpetrators insist they did not know why they did it,
they don't know what came over them, I heard voices, the devil made me
do it.  This is remedied by a change in consciousness.  Many
unfortunately change their consciousness after the evil deed has been
done and they have been apprehended, typical.  Contemporary example is
Bernard Madoff, who exclaims he is ashamed and know his actions were
criminal, but never in the past viewed his actions in such a way,
never sought help to get out of his scheme.  Many serial killers
apologize to victims families with tears in their eyes when confronted
with the change of consciousness that allows them to see that they
accommodated evil, gave into the intrusion, fell weak to the
influence, became the perpetrating puppet.

I know your forthcoming questions!  Where does this energy come from,
what color is it, what does it taste like, what shape is it and is
there "empirical" evidence to show that it exists.  For this I leave
to the genius of my Minds Eye Amigos!  Go for it mates!!

But of course I have my take which is analogous to that of violent
storms, the convergence of energies. Where do those energies come
from?  What does it matter when upon their convergence violence occurs
with the magnitude that leaves a path of destruction and death.
We are appalled when someone goes berserk and kills a group of
innocents but in reality the forces of nature in one svelte swoop
kills thousands. Is that evil?  Is evil just a human concept or part
of a universal principle upon which we have to initiate resistance to
block out, to repel the intrusion in our lives and the lives of
others?


On Mar 15, 8:51 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Reading the discussion here on Tim K.'s amok slaughter in Southern
> Germany this week, the question occurred to me; does evil exist? To be
> sure, we encounter examples of evil all the time, but we generally
> tend to seek explanations for "evil" actions, or "evil" courses of
> events. But what of deeds or people who are classed as being simply
> evil as such? What is evil? Is it - as is often claimed - simply an
> absence of good, or is there more? And what of people like Josef
> Fritzl, who goes on trial in Austra 
> tomorrow?http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/31/joseffritzl-austria
> As Molly is wont do ask, what do YOU think?
>
> Francis
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