Evil, at its origin and formation ( yes, there is a process along
which evil is ' formed ' ), is the propensity to be unclear, to be
unhappy, and a denial or missing - out on making the ' right '
choices, responsibly in response to one's own true nature with which
clarity and happiness associates, at those ' forming ' knots along
which spiritual - intellectual - emotional - life force ( action )
manifestation of the indivual being, personality or character
manifests, with which one then has to live and suffer or enjoy, as the
case may be.

Spiritually evolved souls happen to make those ' right ' choices,
responsibly, in the cause of clarity and happiness, leading to its
rise and presence in oneself and among others.

I am not positing an intent behind the warp, which is in the nature of
the process how evil comes to be, except the intent and responsibility
we each have towards our own spiritual evolution, however and wherever
we each are.

The individual as he / she is ' formed ' could be evil, not at the
source. What one declares it to be depends on what is in one's eye,
the form or the source !

On Mar 16, 7:13 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> One thing I must add after much thought is the question pertaining to
> the method of diffusing evil, the evil that presents itself in the
> form of oppression and atrocity, committed in the name of hatred or
> out of fear.  Should we simply snuff out evil via method of execution
> or try to overcome the evil consciousness in the minds of the
> purveyors of such evil?  Is it at all possible?
> Hopefully we as a species will someday come to the realization that we
> have nothing to fear from each other and the aspect of giving to
> someone else is actually the act of giving to yourself.
>
> On Mar 15, 6:27 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nice tangent post fran!
>
> > Evil can be a perception. Ghandi thought British rule and presence in
> > India was Evil, the British didn't.   We encounter examples of evil
> > all the time because those examples violate the mores of Our society
> > but not so with the Mayan society where ceremonies of sacrificial
> > offerings to the gods were norm.
>
> > Fritzi is a schizophrenic who adapted his world to accommodate his
> > personality disorder.  Social mores clearly define his behavior as
> > Evil but aside from the prisoner aspect there exists an age old taboo,
> > incest, which to some is simply sex between consenting adults.
> > Fritzi's multiple problematic behavioral patterns defined his path of
> > deception. He could not openly conduct himself in a way to satisfy his
> > subversive urgings, so he created a secret world.  Fritzi is not the
> > first and so I will remind you of the evil doings of John Esposito
> > perpetrated upon 10 year old Katie 
> > Beers............http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101930125-160815,00...
> > .....
>
> > Does evil exist?   Evil exists as defined by individual and societal
> > mores.  However, there is another aspect of evil, as I see it, that is
> > the influence upon a person's psyche by a cosmic energy.  By that I
> > mean a influence beyond that of the conscious level of any individual,
> > the influence that induces subconscious action on the conscious level,
> > as if it were a dream.  The influence that is responsible for crimes
> > in which the perpetrators insist they did not know why they did it,
> > they don't know what came over them, I heard voices, the devil made me
> > do it.  This is remedied by a change in consciousness.  Many
> > unfortunately change their consciousness after the evil deed has been
> > done and they have been apprehended, typical.  Contemporary example is
> > Bernard Madoff, who exclaims he is ashamed and know his actions were
> > criminal, but never in the past viewed his actions in such a way,
> > never sought help to get out of his scheme.  Many serial killers
> > apologize to victims families with tears in their eyes when confronted
> > with the change of consciousness that allows them to see that they
> > accommodated evil, gave into the intrusion, fell weak to the
> > influence, became the perpetrating puppet.
>
> > I know your forthcoming questions!  Where does this energy come from,
> > what color is it, what does it taste like, what shape is it and is
> > there "empirical" evidence to show that it exists.  For this I leave
> > to the genius of my Minds Eye Amigos!  Go for it mates!!
>
> > But of course I have my take which is analogous to that of violent
> > storms, the convergence of energies. Where do those energies come
> > from?  What does it matter when upon their convergence violence occurs
> > with the magnitude that leaves a path of destruction and death.
> > We are appalled when someone goes berserk and kills a group of
> > innocents but in reality the forces of nature in one svelte swoop
> > kills thousands. Is that evil?  Is evil just a human concept or part
> > of a universal principle upon which we have to initiate resistance to
> > block out, to repel the intrusion in our lives and the lives of
> > others?
>
> > On Mar 15, 8:51 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Reading the discussion here on Tim K.'s amok slaughter in Southern
> > > Germany this week, the question occurred to me; does evil exist? To be
> > > sure, we encounter examples of evil all the time, but we generally
> > > tend to seek explanations for "evil" actions, or "evil" courses of
> > > events. But what of deeds or people who are classed as being simply
> > > evil as such? What is evil? Is it - as is often claimed - simply an
> > > absence of good, or is there more? And what of people like Josef
> > > Fritzl, who goes on trial in Austra 
> > > tomorrow?http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/31/joseffritzl-austria
> > > As Molly is wont do ask, what do YOU think?
>
> > > Francis- Hide quoted text -
>
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