Thanks Chris, would you like to join Orn with the lessons in
politics?  LOL

Orn!  You need to mail that first test back for grading!



On Mar 24, 10:15 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eloquently put, Slip!
>
>
>
> [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" 
> <[email protected]>Date:Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:10:28 -0700 
> (PDT)Local:Tues, Mar 24 2009 9:10 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Does evil exist?
>
> It is not a classification across the board, gruff.
>
> Let's wash this down a bit more and let's put aside the word "evil"
> for now.
>
> Child A is born with talent, Child B is born with intellect, Child C
> is born with negative personality traits.
>
> Child A does not exist the womb and start playing a piano, Child B
> does not exist the womb reciting mathematical equations, Child C does
> not exist the womb and start torturing animals.
>
> Child A at age 6 sits down at a piano and begins to play Mozart, Child
> B at age 6 starts first year college,  Child C at age 6 is in the
> basement drooling over animal torture and numerous corpses.
>
> Point being that knowledge can be innate, whether positive or
> negative.  True?  (if Yes read on, if No stop now)
>
> We can label that knowledge however we want and according to our
> beliefs or social mores.  Child A might be considered, by some, to be
> weird, strange, talented, a virtuoso, child B considered a nerd, a
> geek or a wiz, child C considered a freak, a devil, curious, insane or
> "evil".
>
> Much of what we are IS learned knowledge and much IS innate.  How we
> label those traits is a matter of belief.
>
> One might say of child C that he is fine and that he is going to be a
> brilliant forensic scientist one day, while another might view the
> child as sick with a preoccupation with morbidity.  This is where I
> clarified earlier that it is Not my belief that a person is evil
> because of morbid interests or cultism, but my whole idea is that
> "evil", if that is what you want to call it, can be innate in some
> people.
>
> If a person has inherited traits then those traits are innate.
> Darwin's concepts of biology and evolution could be the foundation
> upon which innateness rests, much of Nazi idealism is based on it and
> precedes eugenics.
>
> Now, I also believe that there are cosmic forces that exist which can
> influence our lives beyond the physical realm and I think this is
> where the problem for some arises.   We can look at the butterfly
> effect and consider that little Tim Kretschmer killed that pregnant
> woman because the baby she was carrying was going to become a
> monstrous killer of millions of people.  Either way there seems to be
> more going on in the universe than what we perceive here on our little
> planet.
>
> If you don't believe in positive/negative, good/bad, and other cosmic
> forces and need scientific proof of such then the conversation is
> moot.
>
> There is no proof of the existence or non existence of the
> aforementioned forces.
>
> On Mar 23, 7:22 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:> "... On Mar 23, 1:55 
> pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: ..."
>
> > > Dahmer was
> > > just an example to show that his was not a learned behavior but one
> > > that was innate, and! how the exhibition of innate negative quality
> > > can and does occur later in life.   IMO, of course!
>
> > Are you classifying dysfunction as innate?   I would challenge that
> > because it seems that only good healthy characteristics are innate and
> > when they come out of the womb twisted or are twisted in the
> > upbringing that is the dysfunction.
>
> 

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