No, you make it all a big mush. Where have you put your shadow and our Luzifer for the meantime?
On 25 Mrz., 14:06, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that was the point, at the level of god, good and evil are > reconciled, which is all good... > > On Mar 25, 8:57 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 25 Mar, 12:33, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Also worth note: > > > > The 19th century Christian mystic Thomas Troward defined evil this > > > way: “This is the old original sin of Eve. It is the belief in Evil as > > > a substantive self-originating power. We believe ourselves under the > > > control of all sorts of evils having their climax in Death; but whence > > > does the evil get its power? Not from God, for no diminution of Life > > > can come from the Fountain of Life…however evil may have relative > > > existence, it can have no substantive existence of its own. It is not > > > a Living Originating Power. God, the Good, alone is that.” “What we > > > recognize as Evil is the One Good Power working as Disintegrating > > > Force, because we have not yet learnt to direct it in such a way that > > > it shall perform the functions of transition to higher degrees of Life > > > without any disintegration of our individuality either in person or > > > circumstances. It is this disintegrating action that makes the ONE > > > Power appear evil relatively to ourselves; and, so long as we conceive > > > ourselves thus related to it, it does look as though it were Zero > > > balancing in itself the two opposing forces.” > > > And, does that not make it, as I said, a perception based on a > > limited understanding. Although, to be fair, I think his argument is > > flawed in that God can't be 'The One Good Power' with no evil in it, > > as you can't have good without bad with which to compare it. 'God, > > the Good' makes no sense, unless God is, also, 'God, the Evil' OR > > there is another, equal power that is Evil. In reality (I > > know...another thread!), God is neither good nor evil, He is simply > > 'that which is'. > > > > On Mar 25, 8:29 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > extraordinary talented person had a bad time being physically born but > > > > managed to hold onto some innate quality. Possible Karmic intrusion? > > > > > I believe that nothing passes through our consciousness without our > > > > consent. This means, that at some level within us, and not always > > > > conscious, conditions are created that invite and allow us to move > > > > though our connection, separation, connection process, until it is no > > > > longer necessary and we achieve what has been best described in this > > > > group as Francis' Is-ness. Now, karma may be a filter through which > > > > these events are forming. But at the level of Is-ness, or spirit, or > > > > God, or pure energy, or whatever you wish to call "it" all, there is > > > > only one cause, and that is spirit. There are many levels of cause > > > > and effect, including rational, that allow us to reasonable understand > > > > the events in our lives. And, according to where we are in our > > > > process, they are all true. But they are the filters that ultimately > > > > lead us back to spirit, or keep us stuck somewhere, say, rationality. > > > > > Karma is said to have a powerful pull in terms of cause and effect - > > > > it pulls us into repetition or atonement of previous expressions of > > > > identity, much like the ego, karma the cause creating the effect. > > > > This occurs so that the effect can lure us into introspection of the > > > > cause. There is a point in the exploration of karma, that one > > > > realizes their "innate" connection to everyone and all that is, and > > > > that karmic patterns are designed to lead us to this realization. At > > > > this point, fear, judgment, polarity, cause and effect all fall away > > > > because the one and the many in us is realized. If we can take this > > > > understanding back into our lives and begin living from it, we are no > > > > longer bound to the law of karmic cause and effect, but simply live > > > > the "I AM" of everything and all that is in a non dual way. > > > > > Here, there can be no intrusion, because there is no separation from > > > > one to the other. Who we are and what is possible is reflected to us > > > > in the moment. We can live those moments in a separate string, or in > > > > the eternal moment or both - the one and the many. But however we > > > > choose to live them they are a reflection that invite us into spirit > > > > and the possibility of more, all ways. > > > > > On Mar 25, 7:21 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You never did take that hot relaxation bath, did you? Rest is > > > > > Rejuventation! > > > > > > On Mar 25, 6:08 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I thought you were referring to the NME - sorry, for having mixed > > > > > > this > > > > > > up - but that was the other thread. > > > > > > > On 24 Mrz., 18:54, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > "...The only thing really and truly evil to a lefty is a > > > > > > > conservative > > > > > > > armed with all the facts. " - NMM > > > > > > > > Better return to the Beatles group...and study "All You Need Is > > > > > > > Love"! :) > > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 8:00 pm, The Nice Mean Man <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > A famous mentally blind liberal adage goes.. "There is no such > > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > as bad people. Only bad choices" (author unknown). Another is > > > > > > > > far more > > > > > > > > to the point... "If God is all, then what is bad?" (Charles > > > > > > > > Manson). > > > > > > > > That spells out the liberal credo perfectly. TOO FUCKING MANY > > > > > > > > ACID > > > > > > > > TRIPS. That's your collective problem. > > > > > > > > > The only thing really and truly evil to a lefty is a > > > > > > > > conservative > > > > > > > > armed with all the facts. > > > > > > > > > On Mar 15, 9:51 am, frantheman <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Reading the discussion here on Tim K.'s amok slaughter in > > > > > > > > > Southern > > > > > > > > > Germany this week, the question occurred to me; does evil > > > > > > > > > exist? To be > > > > > > > > > sure, we encounter examples of evil all the time, but we > > > > > > > > > generally > > > > > > > > > tend to seek explanations for "evil" actions, or "evil" > > > > > > > > > courses of > > > > > > > > > events. But what of deeds or people who are classed as being > > > > > > > > > simply > > > > > > > > > evil as such? What is evil? Is it - as is often claimed - > > > > > > > > > simply an > > > > > > > > > absence of good, or is there more? And what of people like > > > > > > > > > Josef > > > > > > > > > Fritzl, who goes on trial in Austra > > > > > > > > > tomorrow?http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/31/joseffritzl-austria > > > > > > > > > As Molly is wont do ask, what do YOU think? > > > > > > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
