My broad thought on absolute and relative is that relativism implies realism and this is structured. We mostly fail on examining conditions for existence, including the similarities in much purported difference. The Xtian and Muslim riding in Crusade and Jihad are much the same - both deluded warmongers (or likely profiteers). Questions here arise in the difference between analytic and immanent critique and what is excluded from dialogue.
On 27 Mar, 12:45, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Truth can be a bit cloudy, no? Truth itself is a myriad of > possibility especially if one delves into Protagorean and Socratic > notions of truth. What is "true", and "false", seems more > interpretive towards relative and absolute. Might that be true? An > absolute truism is fixed outside of our own perception, such as the > speed of light and the earth's rotation, which Einstein would assert > as absolute. The relative truism is subjective and stands on > perception, what is true for you is not true for me, what is true for > your dog is not true for my dog aside from; they are both dogs, which > is absolutely true. Absolute is all that is not relative. The > Absolute characteristic is all that is constant regardless of who, > what or where. > > On Mar 27, 6:33 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > you have thoughts on relative truth and absolute truth? > > > On Mar 26, 9:40 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The notion of something being true for one has clouded conditions for > > > belief in correspondence theories for millennia - given that one can > > > be right when all others ain't or paranoid. I tend to see this as > > > cowardice in philosophy - the failure to expose problems in > > > subjectivity, not the possibility of grounds for one to believe. > > > > On 26 Mar, 14:53, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > IMHO I really don't think evil exist, The existence of evil comes > > > > > from the > > > > > concept of sin, and sin when examined closely from the religious > > > > > aspect is > > > > > anything that separates us from the Creator Entity. > > > > > For some people this is probably true. For others, like agnostics or > > > > atheists who believe in evil, probably not. > > > > > > I really don't think people have or seldom do people ever root around > > > > > the > > > > > core foundations of their beliefs.. They would rather settle for > > > > > dogma and > > > > > doctrine. > > > > > I also think this is true for groups of people who's main concern is > > > > survival or belonging to a group or needing a strong authoritarian > > > > base. But I also think there are many more highly developed folks who > > > > don't settle in this way. > > > > > > Confucius once wrote "To be in heaven is to be in the presence of ones > > > > > Creator." > > > > > Perhaps Confucius simply meant that instead of feeling "separates us > > > > from the Creator Entity" and living in the opposition of that duality, > > > > if we are non dual, we are fully "present" as the creator which may > > > > just be heaven on earth. > > > > > > I think the biggest problems with religion today is the fear of > > > > > questioning > > > > > their beliefs and then being condemned of that.. Being outside your > > > > > belief > > > > > community can be a terrifying event. > > > > > OK > > > > > > Just because people have believed that evil exist for eons,, does not > > > > > make > > > > > it true. > > > > > But, as with any belief, it does make it true for them. > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > what is real for on on the level of many is real for all at the > > > > > > level > > > > > > of one > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 11:24 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Does he even exist.. > > > > > > > > Reality of evil leaves me wondering,, A creation of those who > > > > > > > are only > > > > > > > interested in their own gain.. and not that of humanity as a > > > > > > > whole.. > > > > > > > > times they are a changing... > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:07 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > No, you make it all a big mush. Where have you put your shadow > > > > > > > > and our > > > > > > > > Luzifer for the meantime? > > > > > > > > > On 25 Mrz., 14:06, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think that was the point, at the level of god, good and > > > > > > > > > evil are > > > > > > > > > reconciled, which is all good... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
