Sounds exciting, Don, except for the part "luckily, nobody died", as I
think we can significantly reduce drug related crime with a war of
attrition, if we just let these lowlifes eliminate each other, no
questions asked.  Obviously law enforcement is ineffective and the
prisons are overcrowded and costly.  Sometimes I think much if it is
allowed for governmental job security.

On Apr 1, 8:37 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> So Don, was that
>
> > former house where the shoot out occurred the OK Corral?
>
> Sunset Heights neighborhood in N. Houston one block west of Airline
> Dr.  Drug dealers raided the house across the street and his neighbor
> came out shooting as well.  Next morning when I came out there were
> shell casings all over the street, a handgun on my next door
> neighbor's truck and a trail of blood across my yard and front porch.
> Must have been from the same guy I heard panting "Oh, God, oh, God"
> outside my bedroom window a few hours earlier.  Luckily, nobody died.
> I had one bullet hole in my garage door but my car and house escaped
> damage.  Two months before that some guys drove a stolen SUV through
> the living room of the house next to me.  Yeah, THROUGH the living
> room.   It blew a transformer and then I had a news truck sitting in
> front of my house for a couple of hours.  Thought about going out in
> my boxers scratching myself, drinking my morning hair-of-the-dog and
> giving the typical witness interview but didn't.  Damn, missed my 15
> minutes.
>
> dj
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I agree and it coincides with my opening in that it has just taken a
> > back seat to the more casual fears that we exhibit daily and I'm
> > wonder ing if in another  five thousand years we will have lost that
> > instinct entirely.  I'm always curious as to what Darwin would think
> > now with all the scientific knowledge available.   So Don, was that
> > former house where the shoot out occurred the OK Corral?
>
> > On Mar 31, 9:23 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I believe the primal fear instinct is still with us we just don't need
> >> it anymore.  Darwin doesn't mention the adrenaline rush perhaps
> >> because we hadn't found out about that yet but most of the symptoms he
> >> describes are products of this phenomenon.  We have attempted to copy
> >> this feeling with roller coasters, haunted houses, action/scary movies
> >> and extreme sports like skydiving or aggressive downhill skiing/snow
> >> boarding.  As a former water skier, I can tell you the acceleration
> >> and speed you get coming out of a turn and zooming across the wake on
> >> slalom are exhilarating.
>
> >> I have been truly frightened for my life only twice.  First time was
> >> in the Gulf two days out on a fishing trip when a squall hit.  Seas
> >> got really rough with maybe 12-15 foot waves and we were literally
> >> surrounded by water spouts.  Got so dark we couldn't see through the
> >> driving rain.  We just headed up into the wind on our little shrimp
> >> boat and rode it out.  I thought for sure we were going to capsize.
> >> The other time was during a shoot out in the street in front of my
> >> former house.  That was much scarier because I felt so helpless.
>
> >> dj
>
> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > How can we distinguish primal fear instinct from what we mostly
> >> > experience these days as anxiety, paranoia or just plain worry.  I
> >> > haven't been struck with fear in such a long time I don't think I can
> >> > remember what it is all about.  What I perceive as fear really isn't
> >> > fear at all but a concern that things may not be going well, as with
> >> > the governments of the world, the order of peace and civility.
>
> >> > Darwin describes fear:
> >> > "Fear is often preceded by astonishment, and is so far akin to it,
> >> > that both lead to the senses of sight and hearing being instantly
> >> > aroused. In both cases the eyes and mouth are widely opened, and the
> >> > eyebrows raised. The frightened man at first stands like a statue
> >> > motionless and breathless, or crouches down as if instinctively to
> >> > escape observation. The heart beats quickly and violently, so that it
> >> > palpitates or knocks against the ribs... That the skin is much
> >> > affected under the sense of great fear, we see in the marvelous manner
> >> > in which perspiration immediately exudes from it... The hairs also on
> >> > the skin stand erect; and the superficial muscles shiver. In
> >> > connection with the disturbed action of the heart, the breathing is
> >> > hurried. The salivary glands act imperfectly; the mouth becomes dry,
> >> > and is often opened and shut."
>
> >> > This kind of fear probably only occurs these days in specific
> >> > situations such as involvement in a major accident, an attack by a
> >> > wild animal or in a combat situation.  But for the rest of us does
> >> > this type of fear even exist?
> >> > We are afforded many safety provisions that eliminate that type of
> >> > fear.
> >> > Has our primal fear instinct subsided, have we become a civilization
> >> > of mere worry?
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