Point taken and the preoccupations are often fueled by media reports on unsubstantiated medical study and corporate marketing ploy. I guess death could be considered a main concern but then again I differentiate natural death from death from attack in that view.
On Apr 1, 8:05 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > ...doing my best to not delve into semantics, fear seems to be that > which is associated with our human preoccupations with health and > security in general...including all realms of health...mental, > physical etc. The main one for most is death. > > On Apr 1, 7:10 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sounds exciting, Don, except for the part "luckily, nobody died", as I > > think we can significantly reduce drug related crime with a war of > > attrition, if we just let these lowlifes eliminate each other, no > > questions asked. Obviously law enforcement is ineffective and the > > prisons are overcrowded and costly. Sometimes I think much if it is > > allowed for governmental job security. > > > On Apr 1, 8:37 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So Don, was that > > > > > former house where the shoot out occurred the OK Corral? > > > > Sunset Heights neighborhood in N. Houston one block west of Airline > > > Dr. Drug dealers raided the house across the street and his neighbor > > > came out shooting as well. Next morning when I came out there were > > > shell casings all over the street, a handgun on my next door > > > neighbor's truck and a trail of blood across my yard and front porch. > > > Must have been from the same guy I heard panting "Oh, God, oh, God" > > > outside my bedroom window a few hours earlier. Luckily, nobody died. > > > I had one bullet hole in my garage door but my car and house escaped > > > damage. Two months before that some guys drove a stolen SUV through > > > the living room of the house next to me. Yeah, THROUGH the living > > > room. It blew a transformer and then I had a news truck sitting in > > > front of my house for a couple of hours. Thought about going out in > > > my boxers scratching myself, drinking my morning hair-of-the-dog and > > > giving the typical witness interview but didn't. Damn, missed my 15 > > > minutes. > > > > dj > > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I agree and it coincides with my opening in that it has just taken a > > > > back seat to the more casual fears that we exhibit daily and I'm > > > > wonder ing if in another five thousand years we will have lost that > > > > instinct entirely. I'm always curious as to what Darwin would think > > > > now with all the scientific knowledge available. So Don, was that > > > > former house where the shoot out occurred the OK Corral? > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:23 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I believe the primal fear instinct is still with us we just don't need > > > >> it anymore. Darwin doesn't mention the adrenaline rush perhaps > > > >> because we hadn't found out about that yet but most of the symptoms he > > > >> describes are products of this phenomenon. We have attempted to copy > > > >> this feeling with roller coasters, haunted houses, action/scary movies > > > >> and extreme sports like skydiving or aggressive downhill skiing/snow > > > >> boarding. As a former water skier, I can tell you the acceleration > > > >> and speed you get coming out of a turn and zooming across the wake on > > > >> slalom are exhilarating. > > > > >> I have been truly frightened for my life only twice. First time was > > > >> in the Gulf two days out on a fishing trip when a squall hit. Seas > > > >> got really rough with maybe 12-15 foot waves and we were literally > > > >> surrounded by water spouts. Got so dark we couldn't see through the > > > >> driving rain. We just headed up into the wind on our little shrimp > > > >> boat and rode it out. I thought for sure we were going to capsize. > > > >> The other time was during a shoot out in the street in front of my > > > >> former house. That was much scarier because I felt so helpless. > > > > >> dj > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > How can we distinguish primal fear instinct from what we mostly > > > >> > experience these days as anxiety, paranoia or just plain worry. I > > > >> > haven't been struck with fear in such a long time I don't think I can > > > >> > remember what it is all about. What I perceive as fear really isn't > > > >> > fear at all but a concern that things may not be going well, as with > > > >> > the governments of the world, the order of peace and civility. > > > > >> > Darwin describes fear: > > > >> > "Fear is often preceded by astonishment, and is so far akin to it, > > > >> > that both lead to the senses of sight and hearing being instantly > > > >> > aroused. In both cases the eyes and mouth are widely opened, and the > > > >> > eyebrows raised. The frightened man at first stands like a statue > > > >> > motionless and breathless, or crouches down as if instinctively to > > > >> > escape observation. The heart beats quickly and violently, so that it > > > >> > palpitates or knocks against the ribs... That the skin is much > > > >> > affected under the sense of great fear, we see in the marvelous > > > >> > manner > > > >> > in which perspiration immediately exudes from it... The hairs also on > > > >> > the skin stand erect; and the superficial muscles shiver. In > > > >> > connection with the disturbed action of the heart, the breathing is > > > >> > hurried. The salivary glands act imperfectly; the mouth becomes dry, > > > >> > and is often opened and shut." > > > > >> > This kind of fear probably only occurs these days in specific > > > >> > situations such as involvement in a major accident, an attack by a > > > >> > wild animal or in a combat situation. But for the rest of us does > > > >> > this type of fear even exist? > > > >> > We are afforded many safety provisions that eliminate that type of > > > >> > fear. > > > >> > Has our primal fear instinct subsided, have we become a civilization > > > >> > of mere worry?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
