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On Apr 4, 7:29 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can only tell you what I have to say on that, Slip. I have
> experienced time in myriad ways over the course of my life. Some
> might think that it is a result of meditative practice. I think that
> the mediation brings us to a place in consciousness where we can view
> life unfolding in more subtle ways, which includes time. I think that
> time is one dimension and we are multi dimensional creatures. There
> are an infinite number of dimensions and each dimension is infinite.
> My ability to include dimensionality into my view has improved over
> the course of my life.
>
> Once my desire to meditate fell away because I became, more or less,
> in a constant state of meditation, my change in view became
> exponential. It seems to me that folks that have had a brief taste of
> what Orn seems to be calling Ominpresence - or being everything and
> all that is, will be or ever was - they think that it is only
> something that can be achieved briefly and occasionally, because they
> achieved it in a meditative state where they needed to remove
> themselves from all sensory stimuli. I am here to say that it is a
> state that can be lived from, that it is possible to maintain a
> viewpoint that allows multidimensionality with breathe and depth (not
> easily understood from a three dimensional viewpoint that applies only
> linear time.) I can only say that it is easier to understand that we
> are capable of mixed emotion - most folks can feel happiness,
> apprehension, fear, anticipation all at the same time and do so
> regularly. So it is with multidimensionality, and it becomes the
> constant viewpoint eventually, if we can witness ourselves, understand
> our consciousness, and allow all possibility. Our viewpoint becomes a
> mixed bag of duality, non duality, time, individuality, ominpresence,
> and an infinite number of other aspects that can be viewed and felt as
> one. Most of us hop around from one viewpoint to the next, and we can
> joyously, and we do so to fully feel our individual humanity and the
> beauty of being alive. In my opinion, living from my infinite nature
> brings the most joy into my life. Do I fear or worry, am I sometimes
> angry etc? Sure. I live from and witness the limitation and the
> unlimited within me and all around me. Not just pretty words.
> Infinitely nesting paradoxes to be embraced. It is innate in everyone
> - our birthright.
>
> On Apr 2, 9:52 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > And what would Albert have to say about that, Molly?
>
> > I guess to some degree it could be interpreted that way but I'm
> > inclined to think that view negates time itself, even as linear. I
> > can't perceive future happening simultaneous with past or present,
> > variables inclusive. I think Pat may have some space time input on
> > it. I'm not as familiar with space time as I am with spaced most
> > time.
>
> > On Apr 2, 10:39 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Well, like it or not, everything is happening at once. We can see it
> > > that way, or in a more linear fashion, which allows us the experience
> > > of the many - or both!
>
> > > On Apr 1, 11:34 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I rather opt for the Einstein view, “The only reason for time is so
> > > > that everything doesn't happen at once.”
>
> > > > On Apr 1, 9:43 pm, monkebus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Time is how we coordinate our efforts of stacking things on top of
> > > > > other things in an efficient manner
>
> > > > > On Apr 1, 8:07 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > as i've said elsewhere, when one finds only the eternal 'now'...all
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > well
>
> > > > > > On Apr 1, 4:48 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Your on the right track, fran, with the awareness of time
> > > > > > > falsehoods.
> > > > > > > That's what I thought about years ago, and so began to figure out
> > > > > > > ways
> > > > > > > to have more time for myself. Soon things started to fall into
> > > > > > > place
> > > > > > > and I never again worried about having a job but only thought of
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > to make more money in less time. The freedom is not the result of
> > > > > > > wealth, but only because most people work at least four hours to
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > what I can make in one hour or less, which translates to 3 hours
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > free time for every hour that I work. Then of course it is
> > > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > how you say, setting priorities and eliminating wasteful ventures
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > use up free time. I set my own schedules in order to take off
> > > > > > > whenever I want, to get away, like a few hour run to the ocean or
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > jaunt out to the river for a lazy day, picnic style. My wife
> > > > > > > substitutes at a couple of schools so she can allot time for us
> > > > > > > whenever as well. I might add that utilities have dropped a great
> > > > > > > deal with the use of several solar panels, a 12 volt battery
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > and a rain water reservoir, so the $avings also adds to the
> > > > > > > freedom.
> > > > > > > It is not just one thing that makes it work for me but several
> > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > working together in concert that ultimately pays off.
> > > > > > > There is another beneficial side effect, that being the ability to
> > > > > > > spend more time in the peaceful mode, the tranquility mode.
> > > > > > > Driving
> > > > > > > during the stressful hours of the commuter rush are a thing of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > past and just watching the early morning news traffic report
> > > > > > > reminds
> > > > > > > me how lucky I am. Having to shop at crowded stores and markets
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > unnecessary and the list goes on. Consider it the Slipian Slant
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > Gruffian philosophy. Hope things work out for everyone out there
> > > > > > > wanting to have more time to enjoy life.
> > > > > > > Truth is, this economy downturn is getting more and more people
> > > > > > > interested in owning their own business and they are realizing
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > they can also make twice the money in half the time. An insurance
> > > > > > > adjuster friend lost his job a few years back and now he is
> > > > > > > making a
> > > > > > > ton of money as a "private" insurance adjuster handling claims for
> > > > > > > corporations and the private sector for a percentage of the
> > > > > > > settlement
> > > > > > > or the savings, depending on which side of the claim he is
> > > > > > > working.
> > > > > > > He can't believe that he wasted all those years working the daily
> > > > > > > grind. This economy might just be the wake up call for many
> > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > I hope so because I'm sick of hearing about wage excesses for
> > > > > > > executives, its time the people on the bottom start to realize the
> > > > > > > value of their "time".
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 1, 4:07 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > In the past few years I've become more and more aware of the
> > > > > > > > falsehood
> > > > > > > > in the ever-repeated phrase; I haven't got time, I didn't have
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > time, etc. We all have the same amount of time, 24 hours every
> > > > > > > > day. It
> > > > > > > > would, of course, be more honest to say; this, that, or
> > > > > > > > whatever,
> > > > > > > > isn't/wasn't important enough to me to take the time necessary
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > occupy myself with it. This need not be negative, we set
> > > > > > > > priorities
> > > > > > > > all the time. Still, a little more awareness of this fact has
> > > > > > > > helped
> > > > > > > > me to see new areas in my life where I have the freedom to
> > > > > > > > rearrange
> > > > > > > > things; to realise how much I can actually determine myself. In
> > > > > > > > short,
> > > > > > > > to accept and appreciate my own freedom and responsibility.
>
> > > > > > > > Or, as those deep-thinking philosophers Mick and Keith put it:
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNv0NChe3Y
>
> > > > > > > > Francis
>
> > > > > > > > On 1 Apr., 12:40, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > We know that time exists, at least for us, here, within our
> > > > > > > > > awareness,
> > > > > > > > > unless you are one of those who deem time as an illusion.
> > > > > > > > > However,
> > > > > > > > > even if time did not exist, one could watch a speck of dust
> > > > > > > > > fall and
> > > > > > > > > measure that interval and perceive it as time but its
> > > > > > > > > existence is not
> > > > > > > > > the point. Time is like a commodity which we use, trade and
> > > > > > > > > measure.
> > > > > > > > > We can spend time, waste time, bide time, utilize time,
> > > > > > > > > consume time
> > > > > > > > > and even do time, among the numerous applications of time.
> > > > > > > > > Aside from
> > > > > > > > > the chronological measurement of time we also have the
> > > > > > > > > quality of time
> > > > > > > > > where something can happen at the right or wrong time or you
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > have the time of your life, what the Greeks called Kairos.
> > > > > > > > > Then there
> > > > > > > > > is space time, time dilation, quantized time, relativistic and
> > > > > > > > > Newtonian time etc. Time is something we tend to view as
> > > > > > > > > acquiring in
> > > > > > > > > the form of accumulated time, as in I have a lot of time
> > > > > > > > > right now.
> > > > > > > > > Personally I haven't had much time lately and haven't been
> > > > > > > > > able to
> > > > > > > > > respond to many reply posts, so I think now might be the
> > > > > > > > > right time to
> > > > > > > > > apologize to some of you, I guess you could say, in a timely
> > > > > > > > > manner.
> > > > > > > > > Ordinarily I try to avoid time as much as possible and only
> > > > > > > > > get caught
> > > > > > > > > up in it when interacting with someone else who lives by
> > > > > > > > > time, which
> > > > > > > > > is as of late in a coordinated project. I rarely know what
> > > > > > > > > time it is
> > > > > > > > > and if asked what time I want something done I usually reply,
> > > > > > > > > "whatever time is good for you". Because I have mostly freed
> > > > > > > > > myself of
> > > > > > > > > time constraints, I can sleep till I'm no longer tired, eat
> > > > > > > > > when I'm
> > > > > > > > > hungry and simply beat my own drum. This is not easy within a
> > > > > > > > > society
> > > > > > > > > that operates on global synchronicity. One could measure the
> > > > > > > > > durability of something simply by observing the outcome
> > > > > > > > > through the
> > > > > > > > > test of time. I don't really find much that stands the test
> > > > > > > > > of time
> > > > > > > > > these days but ultimately the earth and all its wonder
> > > > > > > > > certainly has,
> > > > > > > > > and sometimes love. The question is, do we really need time?
> > > > > > > > > Could
> > > > > > > > > we live without it? This is something that has been the
> > > > > > > > > subject of
> > > > > > > > > many philosophical discussions since, should I say?, the
> > > > > > > > > beginning of
> > > > > > > > > time. If time has a beginning shouldn't it have an end? I
> > > > > > > > > guess it
> > > > > > > > > does because we seem to confine ourselves within time
> > > > > > > > > segments and set
> > > > > > > > > forth various rules of time management, living by the clock,
> > > > > > > > > not just
> > > > > > > > > within a day but for some, every second, perhaps every
> > > > > > > > > millisecond
> > > > > > > > > counts. Oops, I'm running out of time! lol
>
> > > > > > > > > So does time matter for you? How much are you affected by
> > > > > > > > > time?
>
> > > > > > > > > Please take time to answer, if you have the time and if you
> > > > > > > > > don't then
> > > > > > > > > just make time.
>
> > > > > > > > > At least give me the time of day!- Hide quoted text -
>
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