How about the poedophile, who may seduce an unsuspecting mind but may not have actually " forced " sex upon a child ?
On Apr 7, 7:34 pm, Michael Berkovits <[email protected]> wrote: > Is morality only what we feel is good for us? Or is there a > > > greater good to consider? > > Who here thinks that sexual "immorality," like homosexuality or > incest, is immoral? I present the point because I think it beyond > obvious that neither is, nor is any brand of sexual > "immorality" (except for things like forced sex, which is immoral not > because it has anything to do with sex but because it has to do with > coercion) but obviously many people in this world disagree. > > On Apr 7, 10:24 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I doubt that many people would see loan interest as immoral. Yet you > > see it this way because it goes against what you feel is good for > > you. Is morality only what we feel is good for us? Or is there a > > greater good to consider? > > > On Apr 7, 2:55 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Frayed knot is an interesting way of putting it. > > > > I think society is more immoral than moral. I think most people agree that > > > killing some one is wrong. My problem with morality is when some one > > > charges excessive interest like in credit cards (my wife and I have one -- > > > and it is for emergencies only -- then immediately paid off ) justifying > > > this as sound business when in reality to me it seems like this greed is a > > > way of slowly killing some one, or Like ( i do have a very good health > > > insurance.) when I ended up in the hospital a few years back in the USA > > > and > > > the bill exceeded $8,000. for 24 hour stay.. basically to get my heart > > > beat > > > stabilized and watched. I saw 2 doctors for a total of 10 minutes.. > > > If I did not have insurance i would have an huge medical bill and to pay > > > it > > > I would have had to take food of my table to pay the bill. To me if a > > > person > > > is forced to pay an excessive amount to cover a bill cutting back on > > > normal > > > expenses to pay it,, the hospital is killing that person. > > > > or by charging excessive rent.. or a myriad of other ways of killing some > > > one legally .. the slower the better.. > > > > On my savings account I am paid a meager 2.6 % but if I want to borrow > > > money > > > I have to pay 9.8% If I depended upon that interest for my living again > > > corporate greed would be killing me.. and this difference is immoral yet > > > it > > > is easily justified as business. > > > > I think people many people only want to appear to be moral yet at the > > > same > > > time want to use business or corporations to hide their immorality. > > > > The only conclusion I can reach is people prefer to be immoral. Just > > > talking > > > the talk not walking the walk of morality. > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Evil reconciled to good? Frayed knot! > > > > > On Apr 5, 10:18 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Why is evil always so hard to nail down or why does it seem that no > > > > > one really wants to identify it but simply dissect the potentiality of > > > > > what it may define. You don't consider anything on the video as evil > > > > > but do recognize it as bad, horrifying and obscene, which basically > > > > > covers the face of evil, but rather bypass evil representation to > > > > > bring attention to religious aspects, which by the way I agree with > > > > > 100%, don't burn your steak here. The dark ages are still upon us > > > > > brother and while technology creates a vision of advancement, > > > > > attitudes and behaviours create a different picture, the picture of > > > > > reality, of good and of evil. I feel we must somehow find resolve in > > > > > the issue of what is evil. We have here a collection of brilliant > > > > > minds, myself excluded lol, and so we can somehow be assertive in our > > > > > resolve. I find too many threads wind up as fray ends. Which reminds > > > > > me of a thread that walked into a bar, the bartender said "we don't > > > > > serve threads", so the thread walked out, shredded out it's end and > > > > > tied itself into a loop, walked back into the bar, the bartender > > > > > noticed and immediately and irately said, "damn, I told you we don't > > > > > serve threads in here", the thread responded "I'm not a thread" at > > > > > which the bartender scowled, "you are so" and so the thread having the > > > > > last word said "nope, I'm a frayed knot". > > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:26 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Slip. I don't really consider what is going on in the video > > > > > > and what it represents as evil. It is bad, it is horrifying, it is > > > > > > obscene, but it is also no more than religion battling it's fiercest > > > > > > foe -- education and enlightenment. On the other hand, religion > > > > > > considers education and enlightenment evil -- the work of the devil. > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2:05 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for the video gruff, it was overwhelmingly sad but very > > > > > > > enlightening as to the seriousness and the dilemma of these > > > > > > > people. > > > > It > > > > > > > takes me back over to the other thread, Does Evil Exist. One only > > > > > > > needs to watch this video for the answer. > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 3:38 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Here is a good reason for moral behavior -- call it what you > > > > > > > > like > > > > (we > > > > > > > > are our brother's keeper, the golden rule, do unto others, > > > > > > > > etc.) -- > > > >http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/02/22/world/asia/1194838044017/cl... > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
