I too am against all the GM nonescene that's going on on the other side of the pond - luckily here in the UK it is much easier to get your hands on non-GM, organic produce. Thankfully projects such as this (http://www.kew.org/msbp/index.htm) exist.
On Apr 10, 2:59 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > A little off topic - but I watched Panorama (BBC current affairs) on > the companies we allow to "care" for our old people. I've never been > so embarrassed by capitalism or ashamed. We are screwing everything > up. None of our checks and balances are working from GM to letting > our old people live in utter squalor. We have a bunch of Commissars > we call Commissioners who can't even see how Stalinist they are. Our > cops have just killed a bloke who had the misfortune to get caught up > in the G20 protests (clubbed and thrown to the ground before a heart > attack) - he wasn't even part of the protests, just trying to get home > after selling newspapers. Other cops just stood by - they all lied > until video footage emerged. The autopsy seems to have failed to find > bruises - another is to be done. > > On 9 Apr, 16:19, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yeah the tomatoes are some of the worst ever. I was lucky to have > > come across a nursery that had heirloom tomato plants and it is like > > eating a tomato in the 50's. > > > On Apr 9, 9:31 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Oh yes Neil...that and much more. It was amazing how quickly GM was > > > accepted by the FDA et al here. Not surprising that the recent years > > > has seen the privatization of the FDA...along with the FTC etc. > > > I know a couple of things: > > > 1. Tomatoes are now square, too perfect to look at, have absolutely no > > > taste compared to decades ago and have a terrible texture and > > > consistency. > > > 2. We are what we eat. With that in mind, since the early GM was with > > > insect parts etc, well...your term Frankenstein is close to the mark. > > > 3. The creation of killer seeds is a perfect example of the end result > > > of capitalism. It represents exactly what happens when unbridled > > > avarice is adopted as policy and almost a theology. Sadly, when > > > implemented, the result will be the death of many species...humans > > > along with others. An interesting result for an ideology... > > > > On Apr 9, 2:01 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We European peasants don't have to rely on Uncle Sam to get GM Orn. > > > > We grow our own. I don't know whether we are risking a 'Frankenstein > > > > moment', but suspect this is the case. What they are intervening in > > > > is the good farming practice of keeping seed from one's own crop and > > > > thus raising crops that adapt to local problems. > > > > > On 9 Apr, 06:30, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, nice doesn't quite cover it. Smokin' hot works for me. Problem > > > > > is I had to watch it twice so I could concentrate on what she was > > > > > saying. Hey, anything that takes power away from the government I'm > > > > > pretty much on board with. I'll tell you something, in poor states > > > > > like Alabama and Louisiana there's a lot of cheap land growing > > > > > nothing. If rules get relaxed someone with a little capital could > > > > > make a killing(terrorists would see a pun here-there's the rub). I > > > > > also disapprove of the farm subsidy racket still going on. > > > > > > dj > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:37 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGZL6q-3LOw > > > > > > > Even more on Monsanto!!! > > > > > > At least here, there is a nice blond giving us the bad news.... > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 11:25 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Well Don genetically modified fruits and vegetables have some > > > > > >> advantages and > > > > > >> also disadvantages.. > > > > > > >> I know with the grains you can not use some of last years seed for > > > > > >> this > > > > > >> years crop this is so you have to buy your seed from them.. part > > > > > >> of the > > > > > >> problem is if my field of natural wheat cross pollinates naturally > > > > > >> with the > > > > > >> modified wheat My natural wheat becomes sterile. and this is a > > > > > >> known > > > > > >> defect. > > > > > > >> the laws are in place to prevent big companies from forcing their > > > > > >> genetically modified product on an unsuspecting public here in the > > > > > >> Netherlands huge green houses grow vegetables and under controlled > > > > > >> conditions there is no need for the modified seed . > > > > > >> Allan > > > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Not sure how to tell what might be genetically manufactured but > > > > > >> > I do > > > > > >> > know the stuff labeled 'organic' in the market is more expensive > > > > > >> > and > > > > > >> > generally more raggedy looking then what i buy. Personally, I > > > > > >> > don't > > > > > >> > know what all the fuss is about. If people don't want to eat > > > > > >> > stuff > > > > > >> > that tastes funny they'll buy the stuff that tastes better. Our > > > > > >> > access to information and the food grower's susceptibility to > > > > > >> > lawsuits > > > > > >> > allow for safer food products. Government intervention to bar > > > > > >> > produce > > > > > >> > without any evidence to support claims of harmful effects seems > > > > > >> > over > > > > > >> > reactive to me. If Europe doesn't want this produce then the > > > > > >> > people > > > > > >> > won't buy it. Telling shops what they can and can't carry on > > > > > >> > their > > > > > >> > shelves makes little sense unless it has been proved to be > > > > > >> > harmful. > > > > > > >> > As for the lawsuits; seems to me like a cut and dried case for > > > > > >> > tort > > > > > >> > reform. Too much suing going around. > > > > > > >> > dj > > > > > > >> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:51 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > >> > <[email protected]> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > "...Is there anyway to find out what products we are buying > > > > > >> > > are GM's?" > > > > > >> > > - SD > > > > > > >> > > Sadly, not in the USA Slip. A few years ago I researched it > > > > > >> > > and then a > > > > > >> > > full 80% of our plant food stuff was GM!!! And, now that it is > > > > > >> > > 'in the > > > > > >> > > wild', even though Europe doesn't want it, they will get it... > > > > > > >> > > On Apr 7, 3:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> I've heard of the Monsanto group before and it seems that > > > > > >> > >> they have a > > > > > >> > >> track record of filing lawsuits against farmers. This case is > > > > > >> > >> hopefully will set a new precedent for future cases. If > > > > > >> > >> something is > > > > > >> > >> not done to halt these corporate monsters we will all be at > > > > > >> > >> their > > > > > >> > >> mercy which seems to be nil. I'm personally against this GM > > > > > >> > >> food > > > > > >> > >> movement and find that much of the food does not taste the > > > > > >> > >> same. > > > > > >> > >> Hybrid varieties are produced for weight and not for flavor > > > > > >> > >> with a > > > > > >> > >> disproportionate amount of pulp. I've noticed that the > > > > > >> > >> strawberries > > > > > >> > >> and tomatoes recently purchased have nearly no flavor and are > > > > > >> > >> just > > > > > >> > >> meaty with one tomato weighing at a pound. That's ridiculous > > > > > >> > >> when on > > > > > >> > >> of my garden tomatoes weighs in at half that much with twice > > > > > >> > >> the juice > > > > > >> > >> and flavor. I don't know whether the others are GM or hybrid > > > > > >> > >> but I'm > > > > > >> > >> suspecting something that is not right. Is there anyway to > > > > > >> > >> find out > > > > > >> > >> what products we are buying are GM's? > > > > > > >> > >> On Apr 6, 8:50 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > >> > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > >> >http://www.i-sis.org.uk/whoOwnsLifeNotMonsanto.php-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> ( > > > > > >> ) > > > > > >> I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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