Agreed, that akshay is referring to a personal God.

I also agree on the cosmic energy. The subset 'Earth energy' is what I
believe we do have the ability to affect.

On Apr 20, 9:44 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't think akshay is referring to a collective intelligence.  The
> general religious consensus relays prayer petition to a deity by the
> name of choice.  I agree that people are lacking the ability to focus
> properly, perhaps due to their weak belief in their belief or
> religious affiliation for personal/peer reasons rather than
> spiritual.  Cosmic energy is not contained within any planetary realm,
> solar system or confined to any specific universe but more so it is
> infinite in time and space and far beyond our comprehension to
> understand.
>
> On Apr 19, 10:54 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20, 5:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > IF prayer is somehow connected to the energy in the cosmos that makes
> > > things occur, then by all means one can try to focus in on that energy
> > > in order to bring about desired change.  I'm always talking about how
> > > I come upon things by simply focusing on my need or in some cases just
> > > focusing on things just coming along whether I need them or not and
> > > then they just come around.  Whether this is similar to prayer
> > > petition is another question.
>
> > I think what you are talking about is the same thing as 'successful'
> > prayer. We can manipulate the Yin/Yang of our world through 'focus'
> > with the collective intelligence.
>
> >   This is a bit off the prayer bit but
>
> > > the point is that perhaps there IS another force of energy out there
> > > that does effect change.  The question is "does the energy effect
> > > change as the result of a prayer petition?"  
>
> > Yes, but very few people know how to pray (focus) effectively.
>
> > Do we as humans have any
>
> > > influence, directly or indirectly on the incidence of cosmic change
> > > within the universe?  Personally I don't view focusing on cosmic
> > > energy as prayer but a utilization of mental ability to attract or
> > > effect change.  I'm sure there is some defining needed here in order
> > > to continue principle analysis.
>
> > I think the force we have influence with is contained on Earth and
> > controlled by the collective intelligence.
>
> > peace & Love
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