Being Palestinian myself, there is truth that I shall not deny just
because I happen to be the protagonist/antagonist however outsiders
would view it, the holocaust did exist and no matter what anyone says,
it was morally wrong.  Boy, don't we love to remain victimized because
our own sacrament is currently suffering.  We cannot justify a means
by ridiculing an equally important means, however long ago it
occurred.  Societies as a whole face or will face some type of
erroneous epidemic; in the end innocent people will die.

I've heard alot of bullshit, the Jews seek revenge in the Palestinians
due to what efficated from the holocaust, the Jews are reacting
towards the Palestinians the same way the Germans did; they are
hypocrites, blah, blah, blah.  When it really comes down to it, the
Israeli/ Palestinian officials don't want peace.  Why?  Think about
it.  Yasser Arafat and Ariel Sharon died classified as being a couple
of the wealthiest men in the world.  War is a monetary funder.  Noone
really cares about the people.  The starving, forced out of their
homes and brutally murdered people.  The unsuspecting innocent
bystanders waiting to catch the next bus.  There are always two sides
to a story open your eyes, stop the evil.  War brings in money, piles
and lumps of money.  The officials get to glorify themselves as they
screech...Kill, Kill, Kill, whilst smoking a cigar waiting for the
next hand of cards to be dealt, joyfully laughing, while their patrons
pay a heavy price.

There is no peace, never will be.

On Apr 22, 6:56 pm, Michael Berkovits <[email protected]> wrote:
> Genocide refers purely to the systematic killing of an identifiable
> group, for the very sake of that killing.
>
> While it's tempting to characterize any political or social situation
> you don't like as a holocaust or genocide, it's simply linguistically
> incorrect.
>
> One potentially useful way to view the difference is as follows.  The
> law distinguishes between first degree murder (planned killing),
> second degree murder (intentional killing in the heat of the moment),
> and reckless murder (a killing that results from intentional disregard
> of risky / violent behavior, without sufficient attention to the
> consequences).
>
> A genocide has to involve first degree murder of civilians. Even a
> regime guilty of lots of reckless murders - which is what critics of
> Israel would say about Israel (e.g., referring to bombings of
> suspected militiamen that also kill civilians), though obviously that
> would be hotly disputed by supporters - isn't a genocidal regime
> unless it sets out to kill lots of civilians for the very sake of
> doing so.
>
> On Apr 22, 3:01 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I don't have a problem with the holocaust that occurred in Germany and else
> > where ins Europe. What I do have a problem with is the holocaust that is
> > going on today in the Gaza strip on a much larger scale.. Israel regularly
> > cut of food and medicine, goes in and destroys everything in they path
> > killing men women and children showing no remorse.
> > Originally Israel given was some land that was bought by England to make a
> > home for the displaced Jews of Europe (Please note they abandon their claim
> > their years ago and it had evolved into a more or less peaceful Arab state.
> > That was not enough to satisfy their jewish greed so they got it expanded by
> > a UN Charter.  This same greed is what caused them problems in Europe and is
> > the root cause of the holocaust  in the first place.  (One of those cause
> > and effect things) That was not enough so they took some more land that they
> > had no right to. So the real truth is Israel is occupied Palestine. and that
> > is the root cause of the problems in the world today.
> > The real shame comes from the fact that we are letting the holocaust occur
> > again today.. Oops sorry, I am wrong the Holocaust can only occur against
> > Jews, Palestinians are a non people that have no value.
> > Allan
>
> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > You had better check your THC receptors, orn!
>
> > > On Apr 21, 5:56 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Slip, when I approved that post, I was thinking of you!....NOT! :-)
>
> > > > On Apr 21, 11:20 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > No problem!  You Da Boss!
>
> > > > > It's a personal annoyance stemming from other forums in which radical
> > > > > extremists slam dunk gobs of religious text into a thread that has not
> > > > > the slightest bit of religious topic.  As with his posts in the Dow
> > > > > Jones forum, it is simply intrusive garbage.
> > > > > My apologies for succumbing to the lessor of my emotions.
> > > > > I'm just a human bean.
>
> > > > > On Apr 21, 12:10 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > You want me to moderate him because he is anti-semetic?  Aren't we
> > > all
> > > > > > anti-something in here?  We all have causes against which we fight 
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > for which we support.  Just because he happens to be wrong, and just
> > > > > > because it happens to be truely ignorant, and just because his cause
> > > > > > is truely unpopular doesn't mean he should be moderated because of
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > If he's a troller, then he won't be back.  If he comes back, and
> > > > > > attacks individuals and is consistently patently offensive, then we
> > > > > > will consider moderating him, but asking for moderation after only
> > > one
> > > > > > post is a little extreme.
> > > > > > On Apr 21, 10:20 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I would also add that someone who would enter the Dow Jones
> > > Industrial
> > > > > > > Average Index forum in order to inject Religious nonsense should 
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > summarily banned.  Their is no intent by this poster other than
> > > > > > > radical  intrusion.  Moderators?
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 21, 11:10 am, frantheman <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > munna, there are plenty of sites and groups on the web where
> > > holocaust-
> > > > > > > > deniers ply their pitiful, hate-filled delusions (sadly); I
> > > suggest
> > > > > > > > you take yourself off there if you want to post crap like this.
>
> > > > > > > > I am perfectly willing to discuss issues concerning the 
> > > > > > > > treatment
> > > of
> > > > > > > > the Palestinians by the state of Israel, their Arab neighbours
> > > and the
> > > > > > > > world in general since 1948 on an appropriate thread - we might
> > > even
> > > > > > > > find ourselves in agreement on many points.
>
> > > > > > > > I will not discuss the holocaust with someone who denies its
> > > existence
> > > > > > > > or tries to justify it. I suggest you form a group of two with
> > > > > > > > President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and leave the rest of us alone.
>
> > > > > > > > Francis
>
> > > > > > > > On 21 Apr., 12:15, munna akram <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > its fake... Jews just want to take sympathy, nothing else....
> > > > > > > > > Fooling the whole world to get hard earned money of germans
> > > since 70 years in the form of taxes.....
>
> > > > > > > > > Read New world order, you will get everything.
>
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > > > > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:16:54 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: holocust
>
> > > > > > > > > I actualy disagree.
>
> > > > > > > > > I think anybody not able to laugh in the face of tradgerdie is
> > > missing
> > > > > > > > > some part of themselves.
>
> > > > > > > > > On 20 Apr, 23:57, rosa castro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > to think that anybody would poke fun at the expense of
> > > millions of Jews is
> > > > > > > > > > disgusting.  So many lives were lost for no other reason 
> > > > > > > > > > than
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> >  )
> > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text -
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