Insightful perspective, Rosey. 2009/4/22 Rosey <[email protected]>: > > Being Palestinian myself, there is truth that I shall not deny just > because I happen to be the protagonist/antagonist however outsiders > would view it, the holocaust did exist and no matter what anyone says, > it was morally wrong. Boy, don't we love to remain victimized because > our own sacrament is currently suffering. We cannot justify a means > by ridiculing an equally important means, however long ago it > occurred. Societies as a whole face or will face some type of > erroneous epidemic; in the end innocent people will die. > > I've heard alot of bullshit, the Jews seek revenge in the Palestinians > due to what efficated from the holocaust, the Jews are reacting > towards the Palestinians the same way the Germans did; they are > hypocrites, blah, blah, blah. When it really comes down to it, the > Israeli/ Palestinian officials don't want peace. Why? Think about > it. Yasser Arafat and Ariel Sharon died classified as being a couple > of the wealthiest men in the world. War is a monetary funder. Noone > really cares about the people. The starving, forced out of their > homes and brutally murdered people. The unsuspecting innocent > bystanders waiting to catch the next bus. There are always two sides > to a story open your eyes, stop the evil. War brings in money, piles > and lumps of money. The officials get to glorify themselves as they > screech...Kill, Kill, Kill, whilst smoking a cigar waiting for the > next hand of cards to be dealt, joyfully laughing, while their patrons > pay a heavy price. > > There is no peace, never will be. > > On Apr 22, 6:56 pm, Michael Berkovits <[email protected]> wrote: >> Genocide refers purely to the systematic killing of an identifiable >> group, for the very sake of that killing. >> >> While it's tempting to characterize any political or social situation >> you don't like as a holocaust or genocide, it's simply linguistically >> incorrect. >> >> One potentially useful way to view the difference is as follows. The >> law distinguishes between first degree murder (planned killing), >> second degree murder (intentional killing in the heat of the moment), >> and reckless murder (a killing that results from intentional disregard >> of risky / violent behavior, without sufficient attention to the >> consequences). >> >> A genocide has to involve first degree murder of civilians. Even a >> regime guilty of lots of reckless murders - which is what critics of >> Israel would say about Israel (e.g., referring to bombings of >> suspected militiamen that also kill civilians), though obviously that >> would be hotly disputed by supporters - isn't a genocidal regime >> unless it sets out to kill lots of civilians for the very sake of >> doing so. >> >> On Apr 22, 3:01 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I don't have a problem with the holocaust that occurred in Germany and else >> > where ins Europe. What I do have a problem with is the holocaust that is >> > going on today in the Gaza strip on a much larger scale.. Israel regularly >> > cut of food and medicine, goes in and destroys everything in they path >> > killing men women and children showing no remorse. >> > Originally Israel given was some land that was bought by England to make a >> > home for the displaced Jews of Europe (Please note they abandon their claim >> > their years ago and it had evolved into a more or less peaceful Arab state. >> > That was not enough to satisfy their jewish greed so they got it expanded >> > by >> > a UN Charter. This same greed is what caused them problems in Europe and >> > is >> > the root cause of the holocaust in the first place. (One of those cause >> > and effect things) That was not enough so they took some more land that >> > they >> > had no right to. So the real truth is Israel is occupied Palestine. and >> > that >> > is the root cause of the problems in the world today. >> > The real shame comes from the fact that we are letting the holocaust occur >> > again today.. Oops sorry, I am wrong the Holocaust can only occur against >> > Jews, Palestinians are a non people that have no value. >> > Allan >> >> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > You had better check your THC receptors, orn! >> >> > > On Apr 21, 5:56 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Slip, when I approved that post, I was thinking of you!....NOT! :-) >> >> > > > On Apr 21, 11:20 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > No problem! You Da Boss! >> >> > > > > It's a personal annoyance stemming from other forums in which radical >> > > > > extremists slam dunk gobs of religious text into a thread that has >> > > > > not >> > > > > the slightest bit of religious topic. As with his posts in the Dow >> > > > > Jones forum, it is simply intrusive garbage. >> > > > > My apologies for succumbing to the lessor of my emotions. >> > > > > I'm just a human bean. >> >> > > > > On Apr 21, 12:10 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > You want me to moderate him because he is anti-semetic? Aren't we >> > > all >> > > > > > anti-something in here? We all have causes against which we fight >> > > > > > or >> > > > > > for which we support. Just because he happens to be wrong, and >> > > > > > just >> > > > > > because it happens to be truely ignorant, and just because his >> > > > > > cause >> > > > > > is truely unpopular doesn't mean he should be moderated because of >> > > > > > it. >> > > > > > If he's a troller, then he won't be back. If he comes back, and >> > > > > > attacks individuals and is consistently patently offensive, then we >> > > > > > will consider moderating him, but asking for moderation after only >> > > one >> > > > > > post is a little extreme. >> > > > > > On Apr 21, 10:20 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > I would also add that someone who would enter the Dow Jones >> > > Industrial >> > > > > > > Average Index forum in order to inject Religious nonsense should >> > > > > > > be >> > > > > > > summarily banned. Their is no intent by this poster other than >> > > > > > > radical intrusion. Moderators? >> >> > > > > > > On Apr 21, 11:10 am, frantheman <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > munna, there are plenty of sites and groups on the web where >> > > holocaust- >> > > > > > > > deniers ply their pitiful, hate-filled delusions (sadly); I >> > > suggest >> > > > > > > > you take yourself off there if you want to post crap like this. >> >> > > > > > > > I am perfectly willing to discuss issues concerning the >> > > > > > > > treatment >> > > of >> > > > > > > > the Palestinians by the state of Israel, their Arab neighbours >> > > and the >> > > > > > > > world in general since 1948 on an appropriate thread - we might >> > > even >> > > > > > > > find ourselves in agreement on many points. >> >> > > > > > > > I will not discuss the holocaust with someone who denies its >> > > existence >> > > > > > > > or tries to justify it. I suggest you form a group of two with >> > > > > > > > President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and leave the rest of us alone. >> >> > > > > > > > Francis >> >> > > > > > > > On 21 Apr., 12:15, munna akram <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > its fake... Jews just want to take sympathy, nothing else.... >> > > > > > > > > Fooling the whole world to get hard earned money of germans >> > > since 70 years in the form of taxes..... >> >> > > > > > > > > Read New world order, you will get everything. >> >> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> > > > > > > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:16:54 PM >> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: holocust >> >> > > > > > > > > I actualy disagree. >> >> > > > > > > > > I think anybody not able to laugh in the face of tradgerdie >> > > > > > > > > is >> > > missing >> > > > > > > > > some part of themselves. >> >> > > > > > > > > On 20 Apr, 23:57, rosa castro <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > to think that anybody would poke fun at the expense of >> > > millions of Jews is >> > > > > > > > > > disgusting. So many lives were lost for no other reason >> > > > > > > > > > than >> > > Hate.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >
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